On 14 Sep, 14:29, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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> > Potential energy is not tangible, like the floor, it doesn't require a
> > 'form' for it to exist. Time existed as 'just another dimension', but
> > it's effects of 'passing' were not initiated until the conformation
> > that led to the Big Bang.
>
> Ahhhh okay I'm getting you.
>
> > All matter is a form of energy, but not all energy is a form of
> > matter. That must be understood, first. Consciousness, itself should
> > serve as a decent example. Although the materialists will demand that
> > it requires some form of physical presence, these deductions come from
> > people who have not encountered consciousnesses that have NOT had
> > physical presence. I have, so my experiences are wider (not more
> > valid!!) and can encompass more.
>
> Yes I can almost agree with this Pat, although I would not call such a
> thing energy at all but spirit and so I still find myself disagreeing
> with your conclusion that not all energy is matter.
>
> I too have had my experiances, I would not call these things we know
> as ghosts energy though, indeed in that tale of xmas and carols and
> redemption, it is the spirt of Jacob Marley we meet, not the enregy of
> the miserly fellow.
>
> Perhaps then a case of same meaning differant words huh?
I would say, outside the scope of the piece above, that I agree that
spirit is a different form of energy. Different from electro-magnetic
energy in that it is not convertible into matter and vice-versa. But
it may well be converted in a number of transformations that we can't
perceive whilst still IN a physically constrained form. Thus, the
'potential' for eternal heaven or hell. What conditions and
transformations might be available is a huge part of the Tibetan Book
of the Dead (The Bardo Thodol). Have I not shared with you,
privately, my 'most revelatory experience'?
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