On Sep 20, 10:32 am, [email protected] wrote:
> Of course Van Goghs painting is Van Goghs painting. That is a fact. And?<gw
(Yes, of course it is, interpretation and meaning do not change it.)
>
> It is a fact that you and I are most likely going to die one day. Those are
> facts. <gw
(Yes, physically as per belief. You say "most likely" but that adds
ambiguity to the fact. Most likely is not a fact attribute, it's like
kind of pregnant.
> But without imputing meaning to those facts - the facts themselves are simply
> facts. <gw
(Yes, exactly, facts, that's what I've said repeatedly. To impute
meaning to a simple fact does not alter the fact because meaning can
be assigned on an individual basis. As with VG's painting, for one
the "meaning" might be Contribution to the Art World, but to another
the meaning might be an Example of a gross abomination, anathema)
(You assigned meaning to the "Object" on your office table as being
beautiful, blue, ashtray, however to a minimalist the object would be
rendered meaningless and viewed as clutter. Fact remains; you have a
"Object" on your office table.)
>
> In a way who cares? <gw
(It's not a matter of caring, you should know caring is an emotion,
are we attaching emotion to facts now? Beautiful blue ashtray?)
>
> Unless a person attributes meaning to any facts - the facts themselves are by
> definition meaningless and simly exist. <gw
(It is not essential for a fact to have meaning, it can still be a
fact. It is meaningless to me that there are 63 moons around planet
Jupiter but it is still a fact)
>
> If you are impressed with the mere fact of existing objects so be it.<gw
(Impressed? I simply acknowledge that facts do exist, some may have
meaning and be pertinent to other issues and some may just be a fact
without meaning. Point still remains intact, individual perceptions
of fact do not alter the fact which you have yet failed to demonstrate
otherwise.)
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