On 6 Oct, 16:01, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'll delay my book on St. Harrington the 'virgin cleanser' until 2013
> then Pat,

  Indicating, no doubt, that I'll be working as a cleaner for Virgin
by then, LOL!!  ;-)

> though Blair will be Pope by then and beatifying Margaret
> the Miner Cleanser - causing acts of devout reverence towards Morris
> Minors throughout the world.  Undeterred by spontaneous bush burnings,
> again world-wide, he will go on to canonise Bush before being seized
> by an angry mob and well Luthered.  He will be buried on the Mount of
> Olives by Robert Maxwell ...
>

        All heralded by propaganda made on the old Henry ('Freedom of
the Press means the right to print lies') Ford presses, no doubt.  ;-)

And, no, the above was NOT a real HF quote, but a real HF practice.

> On 6 Oct, 15:46, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 6 Oct, 15:04, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > lol, the story of us.  I think, Pat, we are waiting with much
> > > excitement for your book.
>
> >     As my fellow St. Louisan (Margaret Hamilton, who played the Wicked
> > Witch of the West in The Wizard of Oz) once said, "These things take
> > time..."  ;-)
>
> > I'm waiting too.  But every day brings more information.  I'm REALLY
> > hoping for 2012, as everyone is awaiting for a paradigm shift
> > anyway...I may as well ride the wave, since I can already see it
> > cresting from here (and now).
>
> > > On Oct 6, 9:20 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Sorry Pat - I was crawling - thinking influencing you before
> > > > publication would improve my image in publication - no point in trying
> > > > post-publication.
>
> > > > On 6 Oct, 12:42, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 6 Oct, 00:50, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Surely I will meet you in the afterbook Pat - not because I am a
> > > > > > saint, but because I am to crass to be embarrassed!  I went out for 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > couple of pints last night to discover Bolton closed.  This was my
> > > > > > first venture for a couple of months and I'm afraid this sad town is
> > > > > > in real trouble.  The boozers don't really matter, but the heart of
> > > > > > any opportunity for meeting in such a traditional way might.  In pub
> > > > > > one, one old mate now retired was waxing lyrical on the dismal owner
> > > > > > being hated by 75% of potential custom and a bent clique running the
> > > > > > social club and in number two I discovered three and four had gone
> > > > > > 'bank' from two stray Irishmen.  Industry is long gone here, along
> > > > > > with much that made us something of a collective.  Have I told you
> > > > > > what a fine, pre-published fellow you are of late?
>
> > > > >    Pre-published?  You lost me there, unless you're referring to all
> > > > > my book-related thoughts being dispersed amongst the pages of this
> > > > > group.
>
> > > > > > On 5 Oct, 17:37, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 5 Oct, 16:24, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > archytas
>
> > > > > > > > I can't pretend to be more learned than Rodger Penrose, but I 
> > > > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > see why conciousness can't be a very likely byproduct of 
> > > > > > > > evolution.
> > > > > > > > Obviously our species was well rewarded for devolping the 
> > > > > > > > trait.  It
> > > > > > > > seems that a favorite survival development for species is
> > > > > > > > specialization, which only gets you comfortable niche, until 
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > environment changes.
>
> > > > > > > > Conciousness seems to be the answer to this, it gives us a 
> > > > > > > > theater to
> > > > > > > > act appropriately in situations that have not happened to us as
> > > > > > > > individuals, or even as a species.  It's an amazing advange 
> > > > > > > > that gives
> > > > > > > > us more longevity than being hardwired to respond to a specific
> > > > > > > > evironment in a more effcient way.
>
> > > > > > >    Without it, we wouldn't 'know', much less, know how to act.  
> > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > the only way to get 'thoughts/ideas' associated 'us' as 
> > > > > > > individuals,
> > > > > > > which is why I find it analogous to the 'bus' of a CPU: that which
> > > > > > > fetches data between the data space (the mind of God as a pool of
> > > > > > > abstracts) and memory (this hard-core 4-D universe).
>
> > > > > > > > It sounds like you feel that conciousness is wasted on many
> > > > > > > > individuals, or more succinctly, most people waste their
> > > > > > > > conciousness.  I can't disagree with that.  The human species 
> > > > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > > very interesting balance between contributing as an individual, 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > going along with the herd.  Ever since I read 'Germs, Guns, and
> > > > > > > > Steel', I can't stop thinking of the collective minds of the 
> > > > > > > > human
> > > > > > > > race as several different colonies of bacteria giong through 
> > > > > > > > their own
> > > > > > > > evolutionary process.
>
> > > > > > > *sings*... Every thought is sacred.  Every thought is Good....- 
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