I toured the Henry Ford estate recently and while most of the
furnishings were gone, victims of the family wars, many of his books
remained, and we were fascinated to look at even the names of the rare
metaphysical books on the shelves.  He had a great deal of information
of spiritualism and reincarnation, as was a sign of the times, but
also books in the mystical tradition, Trine, Hermetics,
interpretations of the bible.  If I go back, I intend to bring a
notebook, just to be able to reference some of them.  I know his ideas
on isolationism got him, ) that he shared with several other prominent
Detroiters, including some in the catholic church!) got him into a
heap of bad press.  The workshop that he had on the estate, along with
the electric generating plant, that Edison and Fulton helped him
design, was impressive.

On Oct 6, 11:36 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 6 Oct, 16:01, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'll delay my book on St. Harrington the 'virgin cleanser' until 2013
> > then Pat,
>
>   Indicating, no doubt, that I'll be working as a cleaner for Virgin
> by then, LOL!!  ;-)
>
> > though Blair will be Pope by then and beatifying Margaret
> > the Miner Cleanser - causing acts of devout reverence towards Morris
> > Minors throughout the world.  Undeterred by spontaneous bush burnings,
> > again world-wide, he will go on to canonise Bush before being seized
> > by an angry mob and well Luthered.  He will be buried on the Mount of
> > Olives by Robert Maxwell ...
>
>         All heralded by propaganda made on the old Henry ('Freedom of
> the Press means the right to print lies') Ford presses, no doubt.  ;-)
>
> And, no, the above was NOT a real HF quote, but a real HF practice.
>
> > On 6 Oct, 15:46, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On 6 Oct, 15:04, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > lol, the story of us.  I think, Pat, we are waiting with much
> > > > excitement for your book.
>
> > >     As my fellow St. Louisan (Margaret Hamilton, who played the Wicked
> > > Witch of the West in The Wizard of Oz) once said, "These things take
> > > time..."  ;-)
>
> > > I'm waiting too.  But every day brings more information.  I'm REALLY
> > > hoping for 2012, as everyone is awaiting for a paradigm shift
> > > anyway...I may as well ride the wave, since I can already see it
> > > cresting from here (and now).
>
> > > > On Oct 6, 9:20 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Sorry Pat - I was crawling - thinking influencing you before
> > > > > publication would improve my image in publication - no point in trying
> > > > > post-publication.
>
> > > > > On 6 Oct, 12:42, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 6 Oct, 00:50, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Surely I will meet you in the afterbook Pat - not because I am a
> > > > > > > saint, but because I am to crass to be embarrassed!  I went out 
> > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > couple of pints last night to discover Bolton closed.  This was my
> > > > > > > first venture for a couple of months and I'm afraid this sad town 
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > in real trouble.  The boozers don't really matter, but the heart 
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > any opportunity for meeting in such a traditional way might.  In 
> > > > > > > pub
> > > > > > > one, one old mate now retired was waxing lyrical on the dismal 
> > > > > > > owner
> > > > > > > being hated by 75% of potential custom and a bent clique running 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > social club and in number two I discovered three and four had gone
> > > > > > > 'bank' from two stray Irishmen.  Industry is long gone here, along
> > > > > > > with much that made us something of a collective.  Have I told you
> > > > > > > what a fine, pre-published fellow you are of late?
>
> > > > > >    Pre-published?  You lost me there, unless you're referring to all
> > > > > > my book-related thoughts being dispersed amongst the pages of this
> > > > > > group.
>
> > > > > > > On 5 Oct, 17:37, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On 5 Oct, 16:24, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > archytas
>
> > > > > > > > > I can't pretend to be more learned than Rodger Penrose, but I 
> > > > > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > > see why conciousness can't be a very likely byproduct of 
> > > > > > > > > evolution.
> > > > > > > > > Obviously our species was well rewarded for devolping the 
> > > > > > > > > trait.  It
> > > > > > > > > seems that a favorite survival development for species is
> > > > > > > > > specialization, which only gets you comfortable niche, until 
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > environment changes.
>
> > > > > > > > > Conciousness seems to be the answer to this, it gives us a 
> > > > > > > > > theater to
> > > > > > > > > act appropriately in situations that have not happened to us 
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > individuals, or even as a species.  It's an amazing advange 
> > > > > > > > > that gives
> > > > > > > > > us more longevity than being hardwired to respond to a 
> > > > > > > > > specific
> > > > > > > > > evironment in a more effcient way.
>
> > > > > > > >    Without it, we wouldn't 'know', much less, know how to act.  
> > > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > the only way to get 'thoughts/ideas' associated 'us' as 
> > > > > > > > individuals,
> > > > > > > > which is why I find it analogous to the 'bus' of a CPU: that 
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > fetches data between the data space (the mind of God as a pool 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > abstracts) and memory (this hard-core 4-D universe).
>
> > > > > > > > > It sounds like you feel that conciousness is wasted on many
> > > > > > > > > individuals, or more succinctly, most people waste their
> > > > > > > > > conciousness.  I can't disagree with that.  The human species 
> > > > > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > > > very interesting balance between contributing as an 
> > > > > > > > > individual, and
> > > > > > > > > going along with the herd.  Ever since I read 'Germs, Guns, 
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > Steel', I can't stop thinking of the collective minds of the 
> > > > > > > > > human
> > > > > > > > > race as several different colonies of bacteria giong through 
> > > > > > > > > their own
> > > > > > > > > evolutionary process.
>
> > > > > > > > *sings*... Every thought is sacred.  Every thought is Good....- 
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