On 6 Oct, 16:53, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I toured the Henry Ford estate recently and while most of the
> furnishings were gone, victims of the family wars, many of his books
> remained, and we were fascinated to look at even the names of the rare
> metaphysical books on the shelves. He had a great deal of information
> of spiritualism and reincarnation, as was a sign of the times, but
> also books in the mystical tradition, Trine, Hermetics,
> interpretations of the bible. If I go back, I intend to bring a
> notebook, just to be able to reference some of them. I know his ideas
> on isolationism got him, ) that he shared with several other prominent
> Detroiters, including some in the catholic church!) got him into a
> heap of bad press.
That, and the fact he was a rampant anti-semite.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/683437/henry_fords_disturbing_link_to_nazi.html?cat=37
I'm afraid in light of this level of hatred, I struggle (proper
English word to use, in this case as it can be translated to either a
form of 'Kampf' or 'Jihad') to find redeeming values. Yet, I DO
recognise the assembly line, but it is, in its essence, de-humanising,
so I can understand his finding it an ideal.
>The workshop that he had on the estate, along with
> the electric generating plant, that Edison and Fulton helped him
> design, was impressive.
>
> On Oct 6, 11:36 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 6 Oct, 16:01, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'll delay my book on St. Harrington the 'virgin cleanser' until 2013
> > > then Pat,
>
> > Indicating, no doubt, that I'll be working as a cleaner for Virgin
> > by then, LOL!! ;-)
>
> > > though Blair will be Pope by then and beatifying Margaret
> > > the Miner Cleanser - causing acts of devout reverence towards Morris
> > > Minors throughout the world. Undeterred by spontaneous bush burnings,
> > > again world-wide, he will go on to canonise Bush before being seized
> > > by an angry mob and well Luthered. He will be buried on the Mount of
> > > Olives by Robert Maxwell ...
>
> > All heralded by propaganda made on the old Henry ('Freedom of
> > the Press means the right to print lies') Ford presses, no doubt. ;-)
>
> > And, no, the above was NOT a real HF quote, but a real HF practice.
>
> > > On 6 Oct, 15:46, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 6 Oct, 15:04, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > lol, the story of us. I think, Pat, we are waiting with much
> > > > > excitement for your book.
>
> > > > As my fellow St. Louisan (Margaret Hamilton, who played the Wicked
> > > > Witch of the West in The Wizard of Oz) once said, "These things take
> > > > time..." ;-)
>
> > > > I'm waiting too. But every day brings more information. I'm REALLY
> > > > hoping for 2012, as everyone is awaiting for a paradigm shift
> > > > anyway...I may as well ride the wave, since I can already see it
> > > > cresting from here (and now).
>
> > > > > On Oct 6, 9:20 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Sorry Pat - I was crawling - thinking influencing you before
> > > > > > publication would improve my image in publication - no point in
> > > > > > trying
> > > > > > post-publication.
>
> > > > > > On 6 Oct, 12:42, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 6 Oct, 00:50, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Surely I will meet you in the afterbook Pat - not because I am a
> > > > > > > > saint, but because I am to crass to be embarrassed! I went out
> > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > couple of pints last night to discover Bolton closed. This was
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > first venture for a couple of months and I'm afraid this sad
> > > > > > > > town is
> > > > > > > > in real trouble. The boozers don't really matter, but the
> > > > > > > > heart of
> > > > > > > > any opportunity for meeting in such a traditional way might.
> > > > > > > > In pub
> > > > > > > > one, one old mate now retired was waxing lyrical on the dismal
> > > > > > > > owner
> > > > > > > > being hated by 75% of potential custom and a bent clique
> > > > > > > > running the
> > > > > > > > social club and in number two I discovered three and four had
> > > > > > > > gone
> > > > > > > > 'bank' from two stray Irishmen. Industry is long gone here,
> > > > > > > > along
> > > > > > > > with much that made us something of a collective. Have I told
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > what a fine, pre-published fellow you are of late?
>
> > > > > > > Pre-published? You lost me there, unless you're referring to
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > my book-related thoughts being dispersed amongst the pages of this
> > > > > > > group.
>
> > > > > > > > On 5 Oct, 17:37, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On 5 Oct, 16:24, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > archytas
>
> > > > > > > > > > I can't pretend to be more learned than Rodger Penrose, but
> > > > > > > > > > I can't
> > > > > > > > > > see why conciousness can't be a very likely byproduct of
> > > > > > > > > > evolution.
> > > > > > > > > > Obviously our species was well rewarded for devolping the
> > > > > > > > > > trait. It
> > > > > > > > > > seems that a favorite survival development for species is
> > > > > > > > > > specialization, which only gets you comfortable niche,
> > > > > > > > > > until your
> > > > > > > > > > environment changes.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Conciousness seems to be the answer to this, it gives us a
> > > > > > > > > > theater to
> > > > > > > > > > act appropriately in situations that have not happened to
> > > > > > > > > > us as
> > > > > > > > > > individuals, or even as a species. It's an amazing advange
> > > > > > > > > > that gives
> > > > > > > > > > us more longevity than being hardwired to respond to a
> > > > > > > > > > specific
> > > > > > > > > > evironment in a more effcient way.
>
> > > > > > > > > Without it, we wouldn't 'know', much less, know how to
> > > > > > > > > act. It's
> > > > > > > > > the only way to get 'thoughts/ideas' associated 'us' as
> > > > > > > > > individuals,
> > > > > > > > > which is why I find it analogous to the 'bus' of a CPU: that
> > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > fetches data between the data space (the mind of God as a
> > > > > > > > > pool of
> > > > > > > > > abstracts) and memory (this hard-core 4-D universe).
>
> > > > > > > > > > It sounds like you feel that conciousness is wasted on many
> > > > > > > > > > individuals, or more succinctly, most people waste their
> > > > > > > > > > conciousness. I can't disagree with that. The human
> > > > > > > > > > species has a
> > > > > > > > > > very interesting balance between contributing as an
> > > > > > > > > > individual, and
> > > > > > > > > > going along with the herd. Ever since I read 'Germs, Guns,
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > Steel', I can't stop thinking of the collective minds of
> > > > > > > > > > the human
> > > > > > > > > > race as several different colonies of bacteria giong
> > > > > > > > > > through their own
> > > > > > > > > > evolutionary process.
>
> > > > > > > > > *sings*... Every thought is sacred. Every thought is
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