Oh, Orn, your telepathic powers are remarkable! Or is this actually a pot calling a kettle black? I do believe it is. You presume to do that which you accuse me of. Classic.
Of course, here one finds some of the worst type of bifurcation > exemplifying the hypocrisy of one who lauds the wonders of not using > fallacies. > Your statement does not make it so. I am not hypocritical in my approach, and your response is an example of the bifurcation you accuse me of. > > Further, such argument by dismissal does not address that which > Chomsky points out and appears to be more of a veiled argument to the > man and/or selective observation. Such non sequitur criticism is easy > to expose for what it is. > The facts remain the facts. I have not approached from an ad hominem perspective, but rather from a practice what you preach perspective. It seems to me from a logical standpoint that if his opinions regarding this system were as strong as they purport to be, he would not be engaging so actively within this system, including somewhat ethically questionable uses of the system. > > On the personal side, I can only guess that seeing one’s emperor > without cloths can drive one to madness. > More projection! I have no emperor. I have only played Devil's Advocate, and have not made a positive stand towards any viewpoint. In fact, I've espoused some M.O.R. ideologies which are in direct conflict to those you falsely baselessly assume to be my emperor. Is your use of that which you accuse me of ironic? Because if it's sincere, it's truly sad. > > “…Chomsky strikes me as one of those guys you see all too often in the > GOP: A > flaming right winger who rants on the evils of homosexuality, making > every > move to block legislation guaranteeing equality for gays, and then > secretly > getting sucked off by a towel boy at the country club. It's all > bullshit.” – Chris > > Numerous problems with the analogy Christ as I’m sure you know. > However, your “It’s all bullshit.”, comment is what is most telling to > me. I can only guess that your primary argument is based on a dislike > of apparent hypocrisy. Correct? > No problems whatsoever with my analogy, and another example of your "argument by dismissal", which unlike mine, didn't actually include any salient points. You seem to be satisfied with a "Nuh-uh, that's not the way it is!" Poor form, old chap. If you think there are problems with my analogy, why don't you spell them out? You should be clearly able to understand that my argument is SPECIFICALLY against hypocrisy, as I've said that numerous times. > An argument by you and perhaps even Neil for removing hypocrisy from > the human race and/or even selective people would be of great > interest. > I'm all for that. > > > On Dec 1, 7:00 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is what has always irked me about Noam. If the system is as horrible > as > > he decries, then his aggressive use of it is either: > > > > A. blatant hypocrisy which undermines his rantings on the topic. > > B. a conscious decision to profit from a system he believes to be evil, > thus > > calling into question his personal morals and ethics. > > C. a combination of the two. > > > > Chomsky strikes me as one of those guys you see all too often in the GOP: > A > > flaming right winger who rants on the evils of homosexuality, making > every > > move to block legislation guaranteeing equality for gays, and then > secretly > > getting sucked off by a towel boy at the country club. It's all bullshit. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Heh quite something that huh. > > > > > Still I can't help but think that he is only taking advantage of the > > > schemes open to one of his wealth in order to keep it, as the rest of > > > his ilke do I guess. That it is incredibly hard to live a life bound > > > by ones morality when all others in a similar situation to you take > > > advantage of the system, and that if fair laws were intruduced and > > > things like these tax havens simply did not exist so that a rich man > > > paid his tax burden like the rest of us, then he would be more able to > > > live live in an un-hypocritical way. > > > > > Although it is a good point well made, bloody hypocrit! Heh then > > > again, point me out just one person who truely practices what they > > > preach 100% of the time. > > > > > On 1 Dec, 13:17, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Noam certainly knows something about wealth and capitalism... > > > > > >http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/2912626.html > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:39 AM, ornamentalmind < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > An interview with Noam that includes a deeper analysis of wealth, > > > > > distribution and government than that found on corporate news: > > > > > > >http://anarchismtoday.org/News/article/sid=74.html > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > “I’m concerned that students not become passive acceptors of the > > > > > official doctrine that’s handed down to them from the White House, > the > > > > > media, textbooks, teachers and preachers” – Howard Zinn > > > > > > > On Nov 30, 7:47 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Brilliant Don! I concur, ditto. > > > > > > > > On Nov 30, 3:48 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > More wealth redistribution ideologuery. If the man knew about > > > feeding > > > > > > > the needy he wouldn't spout such non-sense. Meals on Wheels > has > > > > > > > nothing to do with Social Security. Community service, by > > > definition, > > > > > > > is local and supported by local businesses and private donors. > SS > > > is > > > > > > > nothing but an enormous Ponzi scheme that soon will fail unless > > > > > > > massive amounts of money are pumped into it. It is consumed by > > > fraud > > > > > > > and waste. This is what happens to enormous federal entities. > > > > > > > Proponents of single payer HC should sit up and take notice. > > > > > > > > > Community service isn't subversive it is being phased out by > the > > > > > > > federal government. Our earnings are increasingly being > > > confiscated > > > > > > > and we have less to help our local citizens out. The money is > > > being > > > > > > > used to fund politicians pet projects and as bribes to get new > > > > > > > colossal spending bills passed. See the New Louisiana > Purchase. > > > Mr. > > > > > > > Chomsky has it backwards and I think he probably knows it. > > > > > > > > > -Don > > > > > > > > > n Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Other than the obvious irony, how would you criticize this > recent > > > > > > > > quote by Noam? > > > > > > > > > > "Social Security is based on an extremely dangerous > principle: > > > that > > > > > > > > you should care whether the disabled widow across town has > food > > > to > > > > > > > > eat. The Social Security "reformers" would rather have you > > > > > concentrate > > > > > > > > on maximizing your own consumption of goods and subordinating > > > > > yourself > > > > > > > > to power. That's life. Caring for other people, and taking > > > community > > > > > > > > responsibility for things like health and retirement — that's > > > just > > > > > > > > deeply subversive." – Noam Chomsky > > > > > > > > > >http://www.zcommunications.org/zquotes/2600 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > Google > > > > > Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > > > groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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