“His response is irrelevant. Facts are facts….” – Chris Herein lies the seed of fanaticism Chris. Again, it would be wonderful if we lived in a black and white world…many theists have this need too. The ‘truth’ is that we do not, at least not in the terms currently being addressed.
On Dec 1, 9:22 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > No hypocrisy in my criticism. I say, if you have a point, stand on it, and > live by it. I support freedom of personal choice for ingestables, and smoke. > I support Second Amendment rights, and own firearms. I support marriage > equality laws, and coordinate and attend my gay friends' marriage > ceremonies. Please elaborate on your assertion that the hypocrisy of > criticism will be exposed. Noam should practice what he preaches, period. He > should eschew the evil capitalist system, and give his books away for free, > not charge for lectures, personal and media appearances, and give the vast > majority of his wealth to the poor. > > His response is irrelevant. Facts are facts. He has achieved a personal net > worth in the millions by using that system he decries, and he even uses tax > loopholes like trust funds to hide and decrease his tax liability...in other > words, he IS one of the rich fat cats avoiding paying in to the systems > which feed the poor that he made so much money decrying. > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:13 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > “…Although it is a good point well made, bloody hypocrit! Heh then > > again, point me out just one person who truely practices what they > > preach 100% of the time.” - Lee > > > More to the specific point, when one asks a different question, like > > what would you have Noam to do?... the hypocrisy of the criticism is > > exposed. > > > On Dec 1, 6:46 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Heh quite something that huh. > > > > Still I can't help but think that he is only taking advantage of the > > > schemes open to one of his wealth in order to keep it, as the rest of > > > his ilke do I guess. That it is incredibly hard to live a life bound > > > by ones morality when all others in a similar situation to you take > > > advantage of the system, and that if fair laws were intruduced and > > > things like these tax havens simply did not exist so that a rich man > > > paid his tax burden like the rest of us, then he would be more able to > > > live live in an un-hypocritical way. > > > > Although it is a good point well made, bloody hypocrit! Heh then > > > again, point me out just one person who truely practices what they > > > preach 100% of the time. > > > > On 1 Dec, 13:17, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Noam certainly knows something about wealth and capitalism... > > > > >http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/2912626.html > > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:39 AM, ornamentalmind < > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > An interview with Noam that includes a deeper analysis of wealth, > > > > > distribution and government than that found on corporate news: > > > > > >http://anarchismtoday.org/News/article/sid=74.html > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > “I’m concerned that students not become passive acceptors of the > > > > > official doctrine that’s handed down to them from the White House, > > the > > > > > media, textbooks, teachers and preachers” – Howard Zinn > > > > > > On Nov 30, 7:47 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Brilliant Don! I concur, ditto. > > > > > > > On Nov 30, 3:48 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > More wealth redistribution ideologuery. If the man knew about > > feeding > > > > > > > the needy he wouldn't spout such non-sense. Meals on Wheels has > > > > > > > nothing to do with Social Security. Community service, by > > definition, > > > > > > > is local and supported by local businesses and private donors. > > SS is > > > > > > > nothing but an enormous Ponzi scheme that soon will fail unless > > > > > > > massive amounts of money are pumped into it. It is consumed by > > fraud > > > > > > > and waste. This is what happens to enormous federal entities. > > > > > > > Proponents of single payer HC should sit up and take notice. > > > > > > > > Community service isn't subversive it is being phased out by the > > > > > > > federal government. Our earnings are increasingly being > > confiscated > > > > > > > and we have less to help our local citizens out. The money is > > being > > > > > > > used to fund politicians pet projects and as bribes to get new > > > > > > > colossal spending bills passed. See the New Louisiana Purchase. > > Mr. > > > > > > > Chomsky has it backwards and I think he probably knows it. > > > > > > > > -Don > > > > > > > > n Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Other than the obvious irony, how would you criticize this > > recent > > > > > > > > quote by Noam? > > > > > > > > > "Social Security is based on an extremely dangerous principle: > > that > > > > > > > > you should care whether the disabled widow across town has food > > to > > > > > > > > eat. The Social Security "reformers" would rather have you > > > > > concentrate > > > > > > > > on maximizing your own consumption of goods and subordinating > > > > > yourself > > > > > > > > to power. That's life. Caring for other people, and taking > > community > > > > > > > > responsibility for things like health and retirement — that's > > just > > > > > > > > deeply subversive." – Noam Chomsky > > > > > > > > >http://www.zcommunications.org/zquotes/2600 > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google > > > > > Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > > > > groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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