One more point regarding the "Moral High Ground": Mohammed married Aisha when she was six years old, and consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.
Now, tell me again about the moral high ground part, while I meditate on the example of pedophilia Mohammed set. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 2 Dec, 16:57, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Muslims will be conquered by the Chinese, perhaps. The only other > > solution is to level their countries like we did Germany and Japan- > > who, at least, were industrialized. The only thing Islam has going for > > it are oil deposits in various countries. But we have water. > > > > "The only thing Islam has going for it are oil deposits in various > countries." > > I take it, from that, that you have never read the Qur'an. The > main gist of it (Islam/the Qur'an) is that mankind should not oppress > one another and that we should care for the orphans and elderly and > the poor and treat all individuals with respect. Much of the > remainder is outlining examples of previous peoples who did NOT act > that way and reminding the reader of how those peoples were > destroyed. Also, there's a fair amount of instructions on how to > maintain women's rights to inheritance and their right to be heard-- > things that, in the West, women didn't get until the latter part of > the 19th Century/early 20th century. I.e., the Qur'an was, with > respect to women's rights, some 1300 years ahead of its time. > The problems come in when Western society demands its right to be > intoxicated and irascible to the point of outright destructive > behaviour afterwards and the duty to oppress one another through usury > and other ways (in the name of 'Survival of the Fittest', a euphemism > for maintaining that animal instincts are the way forward!!) and > Muslims don't understand why Western, supposedly civilised people, > demand the right to act like idiots, screw up the environment and take > as much as is possible from those who have the least. Muslims don't > view that as civilised behaviour. > With respect to the oil, it won't always be there, as the West is > using it up and fouling the Earth with its waste products. After the > oil is gone, what Islam will be left with is what they have had for > 1400+ years...the moral high ground. > > > On Dec 2, 10:45 am, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a referendum last Sunday, 57.5% of the Swiss voted to ban minarets. > > > > > As right-wing populists cheered and liberal multi-culturalists were > > > shocked, the Swiss decision reflects a deep problem for western > > > democracies, particularly in Europe. How do you integrate a religious > > > culture into a pluralist society, which has mutual tolerance as one of > > > its basic principles, when significant groups in that culture reject > > > many principles of that society which is trying to integrate them? Is > > > this a signal that the meeting between western societies and Islam > > > leads to irreconcilable differences? Or is the Swiss vote basically, > > > or partly, an expression of deep-seated racism and subjective views of > > > cultural superiority? > > > > > Some background: > > > > >http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,664231,00.html > > > > > Francis- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
