" Freedom and liberty are all but an illusion based upon conformity to the powers that be."
I find freedom is my nature. It is only tempered by my love for the freedom of others. That 's after I regained myself and meticulously gave up all else, including what other people think and believe. The Bhopal tragedy is about how we feel, think and behave when we are preoccupied with our worth reflecting off how others feel and think about us, off our social and corporate status, our properties, bank balance, off how the life we lead and the things we consume compare with advertised symbols and stereotypes. The aspect I refer to is particularly obvious in how people behaved AFTER the accident occured. What they did ( rather, did not ) however was carried from before, in their value system, which again is immediately rooted in our failure to de - identify with imagined finite personalities we believe to be real, in our failure to find our peace in our mind, and be at peace with all there is in the universe. In truth, this world needs no help. We just have to stop harming it. Clearly, people who do the most harm are learned and ( often, impeccably ) educated, well approved by the society, legally abiding, politically welcomed, medically fit, psychologically sound, very schooled in science and arts, smart and adept at logic and rational thinking ... frequently, iconic to large, very large number of aspirants driven to step up and seize our future. The question is : What is the anti - dote ? What should we do today, to depart a little more assured regarding the future ... in terms of people doing less harm to the world, the environment, to other people, women and children, animals ... really, there is nothing to exclude ... in view of the likely fact that more of the same would change nothing, if not worsen matters ? I am aware some individuals feel challenged, even confronted, because I suggest from experience that which works ... there, in the first two lines of this post. The contentious part is that I see having more of the same politics, science, economics, society, justice, medicine, psychology, arts, logic, rational thinking, celebrity hood ... as fundamentally futile, in this absence of something very basic that would render all of the above disciplines useful, good, beneficial, least harmful. Between us, it's the only thing that matters. On Dec 5, 3:01 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Being an activist is good for the individual and for those directly > affected by the motive. However, for sure in the end no great change > can take place without activism on a grand scale, the meeting of the > minds, idealism in the pluralistic sense. From Green Peace to Mother > Teresa we can see that things really still remain the same and unless > there exists a global mindset concerning any and all crucial issues, > we'll continue to ride the carousel of social complacency. Scream too > loud and your brakes will suddenly cease to function while your > crossing an expansion bridge, your car will plummet into the depths of > the sea rendering it unavailable for inspection to expose foul play. > If you just scream a little you'll wake up to authorities ransacking > your digs to uncover the planted controlled substances that will put > you in a little cage for the next 20 years where you can scream all > you want about the indignities of such confinements. Freedom and > liberty are all but an illusion based upon conformity to the powers > that be. These corporate entities knew decades ago that survival was > ultimately dependent upon gaining significant control of the governing > body, wherever they needed to conduct their business. Money talks and > men mumble and so corruption is bought and paid for at the expense of > innocent lives. It's the Bhopal stories retold a million times with > different titles but with the same underlying theme. The sun tanned > ceo basking in the carribean sun on the deck of his yacht cares little > about the fallout from his chemical plant. > > On Dec 5, 1:18 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This all is some of why I no longer just ideate about such things. > > After decades of over idealism with all of its associated planning to > > someday do something to improve things, I’ve become more of an > > activist. On the one hand this appears to be a far cry from the > > metaphysical acceptance of things as they are however; with the help > > of the mirrors here, manifesting idealism IS the way through the false > > being of over idealism. Thank you all! > > > On Dec 4, 6:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sweeping things under carpets is a panacea for all ills resulting from > > > corporate irresponsibility. Passing the buck maneuvers cloud the real > > > issues and distract the public view from the tragedy, steering them > > > into a mode of "let's see what happens". The delay tactic allows > > > sufficient time to lapse in order for people to get engrossed in their > > > everyday lives, which of course takes precedence over other matters, > > > rendering the suffering and pain of people on the other side of the > > > planet a distant memory. As a result of that there is no longer > > > public outrage. > > > > Let's face it, the fact is that most of us didn't really think about > > > Bhopal until the 25th anniversary reared it's ugly head. > > > > On Dec 4, 4:34 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The BBC did a thing on Bhopal business last night with hardly any > > > > reference to the disaster, showing how trinket-making and tourism will > > > > rescue the economy along with a scientific training institute. What > > > > jerks we are. > > > > > On 4 Dec, 19:13, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > It is interesting to note that your last example was of a company that > > > > > introduced Delysid back in 1947. > > > > > > On Dec 4, 6:48 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Humanity has a great talent of ignoring collateral damage. The > > > > > > governmental body, the one without a spine, is so lobbied with hand > > > > > > grease that establishing culpability for the albatross is on a > > > > > > double > > > > > > back burner. The whole of it wreaks a stench of corporate and > > > > > > government bedfellows without conscience. But then of course when > > > > > > there is a natural disaster they're all clamoring for attention in > > > > > > the > > > > > > global spotlight with so called humanitarian aid. This is different > > > > > > because it isn't a natural disaster and the call of the day is "It's > > > > > > not my mess". I don't know about the never again slogan, after all > > > > > > there have been numerous other similar, not as devastating, > > > > > > disasters. > > > > > > > TOULOUSE, FRANCE - September 21, 2001 > > > > > > Around 300 tonnes of ammonium nitrate (AN) exploded, destroying the > > > > > > site and wrecking buildings 3km (1 mile) away in the city center. > > > > > > The blast left a crater 50m (164 feet) wide and 10m deep. It was > > > > > > responsible for the death of 30 people, and 10,000 injuries. > > > > > > > TEXAS CITY, TEXAS, US - March 23, 2005 > > > > > > The 2005 disaster at UK oil major BP's Texas City refinery, in > > > > > > Texas, > > > > > > US, was considered the nation's worst industrial disaster in 15 > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > SCHWEIZERHALLE, SWITZERLAND - November 1, 1986 > > > > > > Water used to extinguish a major fire at the Sandoz chemical factory > > > > > > in 1986 washed chemicals into the river Rhine, one of Europe's > > > > > > busiest > > > > > > waterways. The spill caused severe pollution, which took years to > > > > > > eradicate, and killed an estimated 500,000 fish. > > > > > > > Even the Fish have to suffer the consequences. > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 9:31 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/3/25_years_after_bhopal_disaster_... > > > > > > > > Just one example showing how embracing the pious dogma of the > > > > > > > bottom > > > > > > > line can effect humanity…more human suffering and death than 9/11. > > > > > > > > Is it too late to say ‘never again’?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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