There are things that are to quickly forgotten and not solved(brushed under the rug)but yet it seems it was solved to aplease the angry people ..
On Dec 5, 3:40 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > In the end really refers to the end of one activist activity such as > the case of Mother Teresa. Sure she made a difference but in the end, > her end, things remain the same, the slum dogs are still there > pilfering through mounds of trash for tidbits of food. The changes > that came about as a result of MLK were due in large part to the fact > that it was a national issue which had a greater percentage of should > than should not. The general consensus was in favor and so the voices > made the changes as they have now with Obama in office. Still overall > things have not changed much, Green Peace has not put an end to the > issues for which it causes and many other example abound. Is there a > resignation of society towards the ills and atrocities of the world? > I would think so for the very reason of which I pointed out, that much > remains the same save the rhetoric or the political and corporate > propagandists. When GMF's first hit the screen there was a huge > public awareness and outrage, but now hardly a peep, so why is that? > > On Dec 5, 5:24 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > “..for sure in the end no great change > > can take place without activism on a grand scale, the meeting of the > > minds, idealism in the pluralistic sense…” – SD > > > On the surface and in some instances this appears to be common sense > > and truth. In this way extreme resignation and the acceptance of the > > all pervading fear of being targeted by monied forces can rule the > > day. And, actions by a single person or small groups can and have > > changed the whole. This can be demonstrated from the murder of > > Archduke Ferdinand to that of JFK, his brother, Malcolm X and Martin > > Luther King Jr., from a small band of tea party members throwing tea > > from governmentally biased reduced taxation over the side to a single > > man who doesn’t even drive taking public transportation to Washington > > DC and getting auto and other all encompassing consumer safety > > legislation passed. While not massive when looked at the whole, > > Schindler made a great difference as has Mother Teresa. There are > > countless other examples. > > > And, of course when addressing issues like legislation, a consensus > > does help…when one ignores things like earmarks and amendments helping > > the few. Yet, even when the majority has a will for change, quite > > often the few can easily inhibit and actually entirely stifle such > > efforts…for a while. > > > Without much more in the way of examples pro and con, on a larger > > scale, when one uses words like Slip has (“…in the end no great…grand > > scale…”), if analyzed, can be seen to create the desired result and > > make the point in question. “In the end” itself just does not occur. > > All is an ongoing process. Everything is interconnected and there is > > no end of process. Governments and cultures come and go. Ideologies > > come and go. Philosophies come and go. Ideals like freedom and liberty > > can be reduced to being seen as only existent when physically > > supported by the all powerful masses. So, how does one address the > > notions of great change and/or a grand scale without some sort of > > telos being involved? > > > In the hearts of humanity there does exist such a multifarious unity > > that appears to be an innate and powerful driving force that can only > > be squelched or ignored by the heartless in individual and imposed > > instances…never killing off that which is part and parcel of humanity > > itself. So, in this way of apprehending, the ‘devil in the details’ is > > but a small ‘d’ phantom. > > > What is humanity’s goal? Some say survival…something we all share at > > this moment. Yet even here, if looked at from a skeptic’s eyes, we all > > die…the planet will someday die. So, is the telos death itself? A few > > nihilists do espouse such a view. So, how does one approach the > > undeniable and factual inner light found in the heart of humanity? > > > As mentioned, some ignore, some reject…yet most all do continue to eat > > if possible. Some turn to mythology and/or pious texts. Some > > prophesize wars between dark and the light. Some delve within > > directly. Whatever methodology is involved, any action that rekindles > > the awareness of this inner spark is part of the telos itself. > > > On Dec 5, 2:01 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Being an activist is good for the individual and for those directly > > > affected by the motive. However, for sure in the end no great change > > > can take place without activism on a grand scale, the meeting of the > > > minds, idealism in the pluralistic sense. From Green Peace to Mother > > > Teresa we can see that things really still remain the same and unless > > > there exists a global mindset concerning any and all crucial issues, > > > we'll continue to ride the carousel of social complacency. Scream too > > > loud and your brakes will suddenly cease to function while your > > > crossing an expansion bridge, your car will plummet into the depths of > > > the sea rendering it unavailable for inspection to expose foul play. > > > If you just scream a little you'll wake up to authorities ransacking > > > your digs to uncover the planted controlled substances that will put > > > you in a little cage for the next 20 years where you can scream all > > > you want about the indignities of such confinements. Freedom and > > > liberty are all but an illusion based upon conformity to the powers > > > that be. These corporate entities knew decades ago that survival was > > > ultimately dependent upon gaining significant control of the governing > > > body, wherever they needed to conduct their business. Money talks and > > > men mumble and so corruption is bought and paid for at the expense of > > > innocent lives. It's the Bhopal stories retold a million times with > > > different titles but with the same underlying theme. The sun tanned > > > ceo basking in the carribean sun on the deck of his yacht cares little > > > about the fallout from his chemical plant. > > > > On Dec 5, 1:18 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This all is some of why I no longer just ideate about such things. > > > > After decades of over idealism with all of its associated planning to > > > > someday do something to improve things, I’ve become more of an > > > > activist. On the one hand this appears to be a far cry from the > > > > metaphysical acceptance of things as they are however; with the help > > > > of the mirrors here, manifesting idealism IS the way through the false > > > > being of over idealism. Thank you all! > > > > > On Dec 4, 6:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Sweeping things under carpets is a panacea for all ills resulting from > > > > > corporate irresponsibility. Passing the buck maneuvers cloud the real > > > > > issues and distract the public view from the tragedy, steering them > > > > > into a mode of "let's see what happens". The delay tactic allows > > > > > sufficient time to lapse in order for people to get engrossed in their > > > > > everyday lives, which of course takes precedence over other matters, > > > > > rendering the suffering and pain of people on the other side of the > > > > > planet a distant memory. As a result of that there is no longer > > > > > public outrage. > > > > > > Let's face it, the fact is that most of us didn't really think about > > > > > Bhopal until the 25th anniversary reared it's ugly head. > > > > > > On Dec 4, 4:34 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The BBC did a thing on Bhopal business last night with hardly any > > > > > > reference to the disaster, showing how trinket-making and tourism > > > > > > will > > > > > > rescue the economy along with a scientific training institute. What > > > > > > jerks we are. > > > > > > > On 4 Dec, 19:13, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It is interesting to note that your last example was of a company > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > introduced Delysid back in 1947. > > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 6:48 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Humanity has a great talent of ignoring collateral damage. The > > > > > > > > governmental body, the one without a spine, is so lobbied with > > > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > > grease that establishing culpability for the albatross is on a > > > > > > > > double > > > > > > > > back burner. The whole of it wreaks a stench of corporate and > > > > > > > > government bedfellows without conscience. But then of course > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > there is a natural disaster they're all clamoring for attention > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > global spotlight with so called humanitarian aid. This is > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > because it isn't a natural disaster and the call of the day is > > > > > > > > "It's > > > > > > > > not my mess". I don't know about the never again slogan, after > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > there have been numerous other similar, not as devastating, > > > > > > > > disasters. > > > > > > > > > TOULOUSE, FRANCE - September 21, 2001 > > > > > > > > Around 300 tonnes of ammonium nitrate (AN) exploded, destroying > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > site and wrecking buildings 3km (1 mile) away in the city > > > > > > > > center. > > > > > > > > The blast left a crater 50m (164 feet) wide and 10m deep. It was > > > > > > > > responsible for the death of 30 people, and 10,000 injuries. > > > > > > > > > TEXAS CITY, TEXAS, US - March 23, 2005 > > > > > > > > The 2005 disaster at UK oil major BP's Texas City refinery, in > > > > > > > > Texas, > > > > > > > > US, was considered the nation's worst industrial disaster in 15 > > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > > SCHWEIZERHALLE, SWITZERLAND - November 1, 1986 > > > > > > > > Water used to extinguish a major fire at the Sandoz chemical > > > > > > > > factory > > > > > > > > in 1986 washed chemicals into the river Rhine, one of Europe's > > > > > > > > busiest > > > > > > > > waterways. The spill caused severe pollution, which took years > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > eradicate, and killed an estimated 500,000 fish. > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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