I think this that knowing the great responsible actions of safety should have been kept in mind at all times in each one of these Company's---yes it could have been prevented but it was not and the after math was great---So I wonder in each one of the Company's what was change and done and for the damage --what was done--I know chemical plants and worked under very dangerous settings--I was responsible for the safety of others as they worked--we had one leak and took the right actions ---we study and took test and drilled for this very thing that happen--A leak of synid---We had a whole company just for safey for these plants---There has been other things that happened----Solution and answers when something like this happens -- hope it does not happen again--and there is nothing you can do to bring back the ones that died---If these Company's do not put Safety first and spend the money for this --and screen the people that they hire---and put money into this also---There are some Company's that do not do this---There is less now because of the Laws have gotten harder and are watch closer and goverment has allowed more money to go into in-forceing the safety laws...what I do not like still to this day they still allow enviroment damage..I say -0- enviromet damage.
On Dec 5, 7:30 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > " Freedom and liberty are all but an illusion based upon conformity to > the powers that be." > > I find freedom is my nature. It is only tempered by my love for the > freedom of others. > > That 's after I regained myself and meticulously gave up all else, > including what other people think and believe. > > The Bhopal tragedy is about how we feel, think and behave when we are > preoccupied with our worth reflecting off how others feel and think > about us, off our social and corporate status, our properties, bank > balance, off how the life we lead and the things we consume compare > with advertised symbols and stereotypes. > > The aspect I refer to is particularly obvious in how people behaved > AFTER the accident occured. What they did ( rather, did not ) however > was carried from before, in their value system, which again is > immediately rooted in our failure to de - identify with imagined > finite personalities we believe to be real, in our failure to find our > peace in our mind, and be at peace with all there is in the universe. > > In truth, this world needs no help. We just have to stop harming it. > > Clearly, people who do the most harm are learned and ( often, > impeccably ) educated, well approved by the society, legally abiding, > politically welcomed, medically fit, psychologically sound, very > schooled in science and arts, smart and adept at logic and rational > thinking ... frequently, iconic to large, very large number of > aspirants driven to step up and seize our future. > > The question is : What is the anti - dote ? What should we do today, > to depart a little more assured regarding the future ... in terms of > people doing less harm to the world, the environment, to other people, > women and children, animals ... really, there is nothing to > exclude ... in view of the likely fact that more of the same would > change nothing, if not worsen matters ? > > I am aware some individuals feel challenged, even confronted, because > I suggest from experience that which works ... there, in the first > two lines of this post. The contentious part is that I see having more > of the same politics, science, economics, society, justice, medicine, > psychology, arts, logic, rational thinking, celebrity hood ... as > fundamentally futile, in this absence of something very basic that > would render all of the above disciplines useful, good, beneficial, > least harmful. > > Between us, it's the only thing that matters. > > On Dec 5, 3:01 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Being an activist is good for the individual and for those directly > > affected by the motive. However, for sure in the end no great change > > can take place without activism on a grand scale, the meeting of the > > minds, idealism in the pluralistic sense. From Green Peace to Mother > > Teresa we can see that things really still remain the same and unless > > there exists a global mindset concerning any and all crucial issues, > > we'll continue to ride the carousel of social complacency. Scream too > > loud and your brakes will suddenly cease to function while your > > crossing an expansion bridge, your car will plummet into the depths of > > the sea rendering it unavailable for inspection to expose foul play. > > If you just scream a little you'll wake up to authorities ransacking > > your digs to uncover the planted controlled substances that will put > > you in a little cage for the next 20 years where you can scream all > > you want about the indignities of such confinements. Freedom and > > liberty are all but an illusion based upon conformity to the powers > > that be. These corporate entities knew decades ago that survival was > > ultimately dependent upon gaining significant control of the governing > > body, wherever they needed to conduct their business. Money talks and > > men mumble and so corruption is bought and paid for at the expense of > > innocent lives. It's the Bhopal stories retold a million times with > > different titles but with the same underlying theme. The sun tanned > > ceo basking in the carribean sun on the deck of his yacht cares little > > about the fallout from his chemical plant. > > > On Dec 5, 1:18 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This all is some of why I no longer just ideate about such things. > > > After decades of over idealism with all of its associated planning to > > > someday do something to improve things, I’ve become more of an > > > activist. On the one hand this appears to be a far cry from the > > > metaphysical acceptance of things as they are however; with the help > > > of the mirrors here, manifesting idealism IS the way through the false > > > being of over idealism. Thank you all! > > > > On Dec 4, 6:22 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sweeping things under carpets is a panacea for all ills resulting from > > > > corporate irresponsibility. Passing the buck maneuvers cloud the real > > > > issues and distract the public view from the tragedy, steering them > > > > into a mode of "let's see what happens". The delay tactic allows > > > > sufficient time to lapse in order for people to get engrossed in their > > > > everyday lives, which of course takes precedence over other matters, > > > > rendering the suffering and pain of people on the other side of the > > > > planet a distant memory. As a result of that there is no longer > > > > public outrage. > > > > > Let's face it, the fact is that most of us didn't really think about > > > > Bhopal until the 25th anniversary reared it's ugly head. > > > > > On Dec 4, 4:34 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > The BBC did a thing on Bhopal business last night with hardly any > > > > > reference to the disaster, showing how trinket-making and tourism will > > > > > rescue the economy along with a scientific training institute. What > > > > > jerks we are. > > > > > > On 4 Dec, 19:13, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It is interesting to note that your last example was of a company > > > > > > that > > > > > > introduced Delysid back in 1947. > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 6:48 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Humanity has a great talent of ignoring collateral damage. The > > > > > > > governmental body, the one without a spine, is so lobbied with > > > > > > > hand > > > > > > > grease that establishing culpability for the albatross is on a > > > > > > > double > > > > > > > back burner. The whole of it wreaks a stench of corporate and > > > > > > > government bedfellows without conscience. But then of course > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > there is a natural disaster they're all clamoring for attention > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > global spotlight with so called humanitarian aid. This is > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > because it isn't a natural disaster and the call of the day is > > > > > > > "It's > > > > > > > not my mess". I don't know about the never again slogan, after > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > there have been numerous other similar, not as devastating, > > > > > > > disasters. > > > > > > > > TOULOUSE, FRANCE - September 21, 2001 > > > > > > > Around 300 tonnes of ammonium nitrate (AN) exploded, destroying > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > site and wrecking buildings 3km (1 mile) away in the city center. > > > > > > > The blast left a crater 50m (164 feet) wide and 10m deep. It was > > > > > > > responsible for the death of 30 people, and 10,000 injuries. > > > > > > > > TEXAS CITY, TEXAS, US - March 23, 2005 > > > > > > > The 2005 disaster at UK oil major BP's Texas City refinery, in > > > > > > > Texas, > > > > > > > US, was considered the nation's worst industrial disaster in 15 > > > > > > > years. > > > > > > > > SCHWEIZERHALLE, SWITZERLAND - November 1, 1986 > > > > > > > Water used to extinguish a major fire at the Sandoz chemical > > > > > > > factory > > > > > > > in 1986 washed chemicals into the river Rhine, one of Europe's > > > > > > > busiest > > > > > > > waterways. The spill caused severe pollution, which took years to > > > > > > > eradicate, and killed an estimated 500,000 fish. > > > > > > > > Even the Fish have to suffer the consequences. > > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 9:31 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >http://www.democracynow.org/2009/12/3/25_years_after_bhopal_disaster_... > > > > > > > > > Just one example showing how embracing the pious dogma of the > > > > > > > > bottom > > > > > > > > line can effect humanity…more human suffering and death than > > > > > > > > 9/11. > > > > > > > > > Is it too late to say ‘never again’?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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