And it continues...we will find out very soon if there can be peaceful coexistence.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/men-sought-to-kill-woman-for-adultery/story-e6frf7lf-1225807527490 <http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/men-sought-to-kill-woman-for-adultery/story-e6frf7lf-1225807527490>There will have to either be a "Great Schism" in the Muslim Society at large, or it may very likely end up as the secular world vs. the government world. I'm pulling for a Muslim Reformation. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I always think of Numbers 31 when people start to defend religion and > dig deep into historic paper as though this could ever be proof of > anything these days. Moses is a vile war criminal in N31, but people > jump to his rescue saying 'he was just a child of his time'. The > ethnic cleansing of N31 is still with us and vile creatures like Moses > too. I might have been him, born in those times, or Hitler. I'd like > to believe I'm too pathetic to have been either - we should think > better of pathetic men and women. The Philistines and Barbarians were > often better civilised than the bastard societies that beat them and > recorded history in their drunken, flattering songs of victory. > I suspect Pat is right on the 'history' of the prophet's marriage (or > one of them) and also that such was commonplace (it still is). The > argument of the wife coming to his bedchamber reeks of what > paedophiles say. I'm as disgusted as Chris by "religion", but we need > to remember propaganda is everywhere is this particular world because > they can't have anything else. The Koran is as vile or as > enlightening as the Bible, full of tales of torturing Jews (who have > their own literature of similar). All us regs know this shit and > shouldn't be wasting our breath on it, though I can see why Pat was > tempted to the correction. > What I find interesting about the Minarets is that most still think PC > in talking about it. Somehow we can't have people voting on what they > want because this will be undignified. What is undignified about > saying no to the middle ages? The smell of Malinovski talking in > public of the 'Argonauts of the Pacific' whilst scratching 'the > niggers are noisy tonight' in the margin is about, as is that ever > present pontification of middle class elitists who don't have to live > with the problems. What kind of dummy thinks we don't interfere with > 'religious freedom' - what chance of 'respect' for my own beliefs as a > Lord of Somnambulist Bliss? Or the 'Paedophile Ganga Freaks'? What > chance of me not being arrested for being a nuisance practising the > necessary rituals of car door opening and banging at 3 a.m. before > getting intimate with a goat's head as my religion demands? We > already interfere with religions everyday. Amazingly, some think > their religions are more rational than those I hint at here. We are > so feeble we can't even discuss what 'no Minarets here' is about. > > On 4 Dec, 16:50, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hopefully the learning is yours, dear Gabs, as all I did was try to > provide > > clarification to a point you seem to have misunderstood. > > > > On Dec 4, 2009 11:43 AM, "gabbydott" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > *laughing* Go on, my American friend, correct your ultimate point you > > made earlier. We call that process learning over here. I don't see a > > progression in your addition though. From 6 to 5 you're going > > backwards, darling. > > > > On 4 Dez., 17:28, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > Allow > > me to correct my semant... > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:22 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > "The ultimate point, w... > > > > > to me wile II was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. > She > > > > > called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to > me. > > > > She > > > caught me... > > > > > in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes > > > > andAllah''s > > > > > > > Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they > > > > > > > prepared > > > me (for t... > > > > > > > > > > > how? Yes, know, Islammic scholars argue about the dates and the > > > > > interpretations. However, directly quoting from the Hadith is > hardly > > any > > of > > > > > the traits you acribe,, and your ad hominem attempts to discredit > my > > > > > position are eneath you. > > > > > > I note that you didn't respond to any of my other points. Were I > to > > > > throw > > > your own arg...> > > Compare the vast majorty of thhe Muslim > world, including their > > > > movement > > > > > > into > > > Western societies, and you will see far more abrogations > of > > > > human rights, > > > acts ... > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Pat < > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > On 3 Dec, 22:10, Chris Jenkins < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On... > > > > > > > marriag when shhe was nine years old. > > > > > > > She was betrothed at about age six, but was 'married' at about > age > > > > > > ten. The consu... > > > > > > is rie with IIslamophobic predispositions. As you don't tell the > > > > > > WHOLE story (you can't, as it wouldn't back up theconclusions > you > > > > > > prefer), you're quite content with your ignorance. Marrying > young > > > > was > > > > rather tradit... > > > > > > > > > > > > inddand cring man wwho had always treated her with great cae and > > > > > > respect. For several years, they didn't even live under the same > > > > > > > roof, with Aisha ... > > > > > enter r without herequestst. So, this 'pedophilia' you mention is > > just > > > > > > ignorant Islamophob and, inin human terms, about as uncommon as > 14- > > > > > > year old girls falling pregnant in today's world. With > thexception > > > > > > > that the modern girl probably isn't married and, therefore, has > no > > > > > > legal way of p... > > > > > > > > > solut is to to level their countries like we did Germany > and > > > > Japan- > > > > > > > who, at least, were industrialized. The only > thing > > > > Islam has > > going > > ... > > > > > > > > > > one another and that we should e for or the orphans and > elderly > > and > > > > > > > > the poor treateat all individuals with respect. Much of the > > > > > > > > remainder is outlining examples of previous peoples who did > NOT > > > > act > > > > > > that way...> > > > > > The problemomcome in when West > sn society demands itsght to to > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > intoxicated and irascible to the point of outright > destructive > > > > > > > > behaviour aft... > > > > > > > > > > As right-wing populistheereered and liberal > > > > multi-culturalists > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > shocked, the Swiss decision reflects a deep > problem > > > > for western > > > > > >... > > > > > ... > > > > > Erfahren Sie mehr ยป > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. ... > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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