I always think of Numbers 31 when people start to defend religion and
dig deep into historic paper as though this could ever be proof of
anything these days.  Moses is a vile war criminal in N31, but people
jump to his rescue saying 'he was just a child of his time'.  The
ethnic cleansing of N31 is still with us and vile creatures like Moses
too.  I might have been him, born in those times, or Hitler.  I'd like
to believe I'm too pathetic to have been either - we should think
better of pathetic men and women.  The Philistines and Barbarians were
often better civilised  than the bastard societies that beat them and
recorded history in their drunken, flattering songs of victory.
I suspect Pat is right on the 'history' of the prophet's marriage (or
one of them) and also that such was commonplace (it still is).  The
argument of the wife coming to his bedchamber reeks of what
paedophiles say.  I'm as disgusted as Chris by "religion", but we need
to remember propaganda is everywhere is this particular world because
they can't have anything else.  The Koran is as vile or as
enlightening as the Bible, full of tales of torturing Jews (who have
their own literature of similar).  All us regs know this shit and
shouldn't be wasting our breath on it, though I can see why Pat was
tempted to the correction.
What I find interesting about the Minarets is that most still think PC
in talking about it.  Somehow we can't have people voting on what they
want because this will be undignified.  What is undignified about
saying no to the middle ages?  The smell of Malinovski talking in
public of the 'Argonauts of the Pacific' whilst scratching 'the
niggers are noisy tonight' in the margin is about, as is that ever
present pontification of middle class elitists who don't have to live
with the problems.  What kind of dummy thinks we don't interfere with
'religious freedom' - what chance of 'respect' for my own beliefs as a
Lord of Somnambulist Bliss?  Or the 'Paedophile Ganga Freaks'?  What
chance of me not being arrested for being a nuisance practising the
necessary rituals of car door opening and banging at 3 a.m. before
getting intimate with a goat's head as my religion demands?  We
already interfere with religions everyday.  Amazingly, some think
their religions are more rational than those I hint at here.  We are
so feeble we can't even discuss what 'no Minarets here' is about.

On 4 Dec, 16:50, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hopefully the learning is yours, dear Gabs, as all I did was try to provide
> clarification to a point you seem to have misunderstood.
>
> On Dec 4, 2009 11:43 AM, "gabbydott" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *laughing* Go on, my American friend, correct your ultimate point you
> made earlier. We call that process learning over here. I don't see a
> progression in your addition though. From 6 to 5 you're going
> backwards, darling.
>
> On 4 Dez., 17:28, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Allow
> me to correct my semant...
>
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:22 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >
> > "The ultimate point, w...
> > > > to me wile II was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She
> > > > called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me.
> > > She > > > caught me...
> > > > in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes
>
> andAllah''s
>
> > > > Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they > >
>
> prepared > > > me (for t...
>
>
>
> > > > how? Yes,  know, Islammic scholars argue about the dates and the
> > > > interpretations. However, directly quoting from the Hadith is hardly
> any > > of
> > > > the traits you acribe,, and your ad hominem attempts to discredit my
> > > > position are eneath  you.
> > > > > I note that you didn't respond to any of my other points. Were I to
>
> throw > > > your own arg...> > > Compare the vast majorty of thhe Muslim 
> world, including their
>
> movement
>
> > > into > > > Western societies, and you will see far more abrogations of
>
> human rights, > > > acts ...
>
> > > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Pat <[email protected]>
> > > wrote: > > > > > On 3 Dec, 22:10, Chris Jenkins <
> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On...
> > > > > > marriag when shhe was nine years old.
> > > > > > She was betrothed at about age six, but was 'married' at about age
> > > > > ten.  The consu...
> > > > > is rie with IIslamophobic predispositions.  As you don't tell the
> > > > > WHOLE story (you can't, as it wouldn't back up theconclusions  you
> > > > > prefer), you're quite content with your ignorance.  Marrying young
>
> was > > > > rather tradit...
>
>
>
> > > > > inddand  cring man wwho had always treated her with great cae and
> > > > > respect.  For several years, they didn't even live under the same >
> > > > roof, with Aisha ...
> > > > enter r without herequestst.  So, this 'pedophilia' you mention is
> just
> > > > > ignorant Islamophob and, inin human terms, about as uncommon as 14-
> > > > > year old girls falling pregnant in today's world.  With thexception
> > > > > > that the modern girl probably isn't married and, therefore, has no
> > > > > legal way of p...
> > > > > > > > solut is to to level their countries like we did Germany and
> > > Japan- > > > > > > > who, at least, were industrialized. The only thing
>
> Islam has > > going > > ...
>
> > > > > > > one another and that we should e for or the orphans and elderly
> and
> > > > > > > the poor  treateat all individuals with respect.  Much of the
> > > > > > > remainder is outlining examples of previous peoples who did NOT
>
> act > > > > > > that way...> > > > > >   The problemomcome in when West sn 
> society demands itsght to to
>
> be
>
> > > > > > > intoxicated and irascible to the point of outright destructive >
> > > > > > behaviour aft...
> > > > > > > > > As right-wing populistheereered and liberal
>
> multi-culturalists
>
> > > were > > > > > > > > shocked, the Swiss decision reflects a deep problem
>
> for western > > > > > >...
>
> > ...
>
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