On 11 Apr, 16:33, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > Yah sure ya did... Did the voices in your head set up your first date > with her? > > Anger and hatred, anger and hatred, ang... > Fuck you fucktard, you are the one with a sickness. >
Nope! Proof positive right there. He is NOT angry and is thinking perfectly straight. I'd be quite surprised if this slips past the moderators!! No ad hominem in this post, nope, none whatsoever. ;-) Gasket blown? Blood pressure high? Ask for relief...try "Our Father, which art in heaven..." LOL!! Sorry, couldn't restrain myself. ;-) > On Apr 11, 1:36 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Fiddler you amaze me,, > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:49 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > First: Mother teresa was an incredibly bad example to use, she was > > > quite warped in her opinion of people and suffering, as well as not a > > > believer for the last part of her life. > > > > First you never met Mother Teresa so how do you know what she was like,, > > > hear say evidence? or just your opinion? warped opinion.. not really I > > can say that because I knew her. A non believer.. lol I know what she > > wrote because she told me.. You have no idea of what she was going through > > ... just your warped invaluable opinion. From what i see is based in anger > > and hatred.. when you are ready to walk a mile in her shoes to understand > > her, then you might have a valued opinion > > > > Second: I'm angry because I keep being told I'm angry. It's an insult > > > that keeps being thrown at me and I'm damn tired of hearing it. One of > > > you reads an insult that wasn't there and I'm still hearing about it, > > > yet you all feel so good doing it to others. > > > You being angry is not an insult.. it is an observation as how you are > > coming across to me and others.. In the new testement which I know you have > > read or rather had drilled into you in your youth.. (you are not old yet) > > Jesus gave the advice that one first remove the plank from ones own eye > > befor trying to remove the speck from eye of another. > > > > Third: Where the hell are you getting that 95% from? Because it can > > > only be presto-digitation, which is "I need a number...oh I know!" The > > > fact is that many of the "normal" religious people financially and > > > tacitly support the "extremists." Religions wage war on sinners... > > > like the millions of aids sinners in Africa that are dying of a > > > perfectly preventable disease due to islam and christianity. Like > > > polio nearly being wiped out...right up until muslim leaders began > > > insisting that the vaccine would sterilise muslims. ETC.. > > > Prestidigitation my my those are pretty standard and accepted figure that > > can be backed up and it is being backable with figures,, but as usual you > > would not accept them as correct because it does not fit into your angry > > view of things.. If the "normal" religious people are support the > > "extremists" that can only logically translate that these people are > > supporting you because you definitively in my humble opinion fall into the > > category of extremist.. > > True to form you take the most distorted view and claim it is the view of > > every one else.. oh well.. sickness is sickness.. > > > > Fourth: Howe exactly would you ban non-belief in mythology? Oh ya...a > > > return to the last 2.5 thousand years of executions committed by the > > > yhvh fan club... > > > Sorry Fiddler you are the one who want to ban people with bad beliefs.. and > > unfortunately atheist also fall into that 5% catagory of bad people.. that > > you want to ban.. > > Allan > > Just my opinion.. and I speak for no one else.. > > > > On Apr 10, 8:26 am, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello Fiddler, > > > > > So if I understand correctly you are not angry at God, you are angry > > > > at religion. Because religion make people do bad things. Or are you > > > > angry because people believe they have to do bad things because their > > > > interpretation of their religion said so? > > > > > As you know, not all people who are religious do bad things, for > > > > example mother Theresa did some good things in her live. So I think > > > > you mean that people should change their interpretation of their > > > > believe. And for some people, who become violent because of their > > > > believe that would be the right thing to do. So you have a point > > > > there, if I understood correctly. But I want to mention that 95% of > > > > religious people have good intentions and help others because they > > > > believe.So I think it is unfair to say that religion should be banned. > > > > There are also a lot of atheist people who do good things but 5% did > > > > some bad things, do you want to ban atheism too because there are a > > > > few people who do bad? > > > > > Matthijs > > > > > On Apr 9, 7:34 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Actually, if you read my words directly, I already take your advice. I > > > > > don't believe any delusion to be harmless, however. > > > > > At a skating rink they provide these "walker" type assistance devices. > > > > > The man that worked there pointed to numerous children that were using > > > > > them... and then told me how many months and years they had been doing > > > > > so. > > > > > My daughter wet the bed every night, I made sure she wore pull-ups. I > > > > > told her I wasn't buying anymore... and she hasn't wet the bed since. > > > > > These are just a couple of examples where crutches don't help. > > > > > Religion is another. Every day that people deny reality or hope for a > > > > > better "afterlife," they are prevented from making this life better > > > > > for themselves and others. > > > > > > My focus has always been the religious institution. You honestly have > > > > > no idea of the amount of work and writing I do that involves the > > > > > Catholic church. If you'd like, I can start posting it here, but I > > > > > hate making people ill gratuitously. The current pope is the one that > > > > > declared reporting predator priests to civil authorities to be an > > > > > unforgivable and damnable sin... but raping kids is a transitory and > > > > > understandable lapse in judgement. He did this as RATzinger, back when > > > > > he headed the investigative board in regards to predator priests. > > > > > > On Apr 8, 9:58 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Fiddler, Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. ;-) > > > > > > > I just had to say that. It's not the idea of a god that is the > > > problem. It > > > > > > the way some people use that idea. The idea of God, imo, can be > > > helpful to > > > > > > some people. To give them hope, to not feel alone, to give purpose > > > to an > > > > > > otherwise purposeless life. Whatever hole they have they can fill > > > > > > up > > > with > > > > > > God. Yes, this is delusion. But in most people it is a harmless > > > one. > > > > > > Focus your passion against those that abuse religion and leave those > > > that > > > > > > worship in peace in peace. Torment the hypocrites and lairs, not > > > your > > > > > > average believer because most aren't a threat. Perhaps the Catholic > > > church > > > > > > deserves some of your anger or resentment or disgust. Focus that on > > > the > > > > > > institution and not let it prejudice you against all believers in a > > > 'higher > > > > > > power.' > > > > > > > Thems my opins and I'm stickin' to 'em. > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Then you haven't read my responses, you've projected your opinion. > > > I > > > > > > > am, most likely, the least emotional person here. I am passionate > > > in > > > > > > > my beliefs and sincerely despise the crushing amount of murder, > > > theft, > > > > > > > rape, destruction, etc., that religion breeds. > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 10:59 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Fiddler personally I think you are the most angry person in the > > > group.. > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > previous response say your ate angry with God.. your > > > Arch-rival.. you > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > so full of hate it boils over.. to the point you become > > > irrational. > > > > > > > > Sorry that is just the way I view you, the image you project. > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:37 AM, fiddler > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not angry at god. I'm also not angry at Huck Finn, Captain > > > Ahab, > > > > > > > > > or Odysseus. It's a silly waste of time to try being angry at > > > > > > > > > fictional characters. The only difference between the three I > > > list and > > > > > > > > > the one you did, is that no one slaughters, rapes, maims, > > > steals from, > > > > > > > > > condemns, etc., other people because they believe that Huck or > > > Ahab > > > > > > > > > told them to. > > > > > > > > > I didn't call lee ridiculous, I called my interpretation of > > > > > > > > > his > > > idea > > > > > > > > > ridiculous. An idea that is put forth in a discussion group > > > > > > > > > may > > > be > > > > > > > > > bolstered, torn up, rounded upon, elevated, etc.. > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 12:49 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Fiddler, > > > > > > > > > > > I first want to say that you are savoir faire at formulating > > > your > > > > > > > > > > opinion, and think they challenge to think about. Secondly I > > > do not > > > > > > > > > > understand why you make a personal attack by saying someone > > > is > > > > > > > > > > ridicules. For example: Lee your ideas about Evil are stupid > > > because > > > > > > > > > > Evil is only a concept. (words are always concepts there > > > ain't no > > > > > > > > > > words that fully describe their meaning) Why is Lee his idea > > > about > > > > > > > > > > Evil stupid? > > > > > > > > > > 3 I get the feeling that you are angry at God because God > > > ain't > > > > > > > there, > > > > > > > > > > and that this is the result because your beliefs about God > > > have hurt > > > > > > > > > > you in the past. (not believing in God is something else > > > > > > > > > > than > > > being > > > > > > > > > > angry as a result of denial) What happened? > > > > > > > > > > > I have pointed this out because I think it is hurts people > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > attack their ideas and it is better to refute ideas/concepts > > > if you > > > > > > > > > > want to philosophise. 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