? On Apr 11, 5:33 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > Yah sure ya did... Did the voices in your head set up your first date > with her? > > Anger and hatred, anger and hatred, ang... > Fuck you fucktard, you are the one with a sickness. > > On Apr 11, 1:36 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Fiddler you amaze me,, > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:49 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > First: Mother teresa was an incredibly bad example to use, she was > > > quite warped in her opinion of people and suffering, as well as not a > > > believer for the last part of her life. > > > > First you never met Mother Teresa so how do you know what she was like,, > > > hear say evidence? or just your opinion? warped opinion.. not really I > > can say that because I knew her. A non believer.. lol I know what she > > wrote because she told me.. You have no idea of what she was going through > > ... just your warped invaluable opinion. From what i see is based in anger > > and hatred.. when you are ready to walk a mile in her shoes to understand > > her, then you might have a valued opinion > > > > Second: I'm angry because I keep being told I'm angry. It's an insult > > > that keeps being thrown at me and I'm damn tired of hearing it. One of > > > you reads an insult that wasn't there and I'm still hearing about it, > > > yet you all feel so good doing it to others. > > > You being angry is not an insult.. it is an observation as how you are > > coming across to me and others.. In the new testement which I know you have > > read or rather had drilled into you in your youth.. (you are not old yet) > > Jesus gave the advice that one first remove the plank from ones own eye > > befor trying to remove the speck from eye of another. > > > > Third: Where the hell are you getting that 95% from? Because it can > > > only be presto-digitation, which is "I need a number...oh I know!" The > > > fact is that many of the "normal" religious people financially and > > > tacitly support the "extremists." Religions wage war on sinners... > > > like the millions of aids sinners in Africa that are dying of a > > > perfectly preventable disease due to islam and christianity. Like > > > polio nearly being wiped out...right up until muslim leaders began > > > insisting that the vaccine would sterilise muslims. ETC.. > > > Prestidigitation my my those are pretty standard and accepted figure that > > can be backed up and it is being backable with figures,, but as usual you > > would not accept them as correct because it does not fit into your angry > > view of things.. If the "normal" religious people are support the > > "extremists" that can only logically translate that these people are > > supporting you because you definitively in my humble opinion fall into the > > category of extremist.. > > True to form you take the most distorted view and claim it is the view of > > every one else.. oh well.. sickness is sickness.. > > > > Fourth: Howe exactly would you ban non-belief in mythology? Oh ya...a > > > return to the last 2.5 thousand years of executions committed by the > > > yhvh fan club... > > > Sorry Fiddler you are the one who want to ban people with bad beliefs.. and > > unfortunately atheist also fall into that 5% catagory of bad people.. that > > you want to ban.. > > Allan > > Just my opinion.. and I speak for no one else.. > > > > On Apr 10, 8:26 am, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello Fiddler, > > > > > So if I understand correctly you are not angry at God, you are angry > > > > at religion. Because religion make people do bad things. Or are you > > > > angry because people believe they have to do bad things because their > > > > interpretation of their religion said so? > > > > > As you know, not all people who are religious do bad things, for > > > > example mother Theresa did some good things in her live. So I think > > > > you mean that people should change their interpretation of their > > > > believe. And for some people, who become violent because of their > > > > believe that would be the right thing to do. So you have a point > > > > there, if I understood correctly. But I want to mention that 95% of > > > > religious people have good intentions and help others because they > > > > believe.So I think it is unfair to say that religion should be banned. > > > > There are also a lot of atheist people who do good things but 5% did > > > > some bad things, do you want to ban atheism too because there are a > > > > few people who do bad? > > > > > Matthijs > > > > > On Apr 9, 7:34 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Actually, if you read my words directly, I already take your advice. I > > > > > don't believe any delusion to be harmless, however. > > > > > At a skating rink they provide these "walker" type assistance devices. > > > > > The man that worked there pointed to numerous children that were using > > > > > them... and then told me how many months and years they had been doing > > > > > so. > > > > > My daughter wet the bed every night, I made sure she wore pull-ups. I > > > > > told her I wasn't buying anymore... and she hasn't wet the bed since. > > > > > These are just a couple of examples where crutches don't help. > > > > > Religion is another. Every day that people deny reality or hope for a > > > > > better "afterlife," they are prevented from making this life better > > > > > for themselves and others. > > > > > > My focus has always been the religious institution. You honestly have > > > > > no idea of the amount of work and writing I do that involves the > > > > > Catholic church. If you'd like, I can start posting it here, but I > > > > > hate making people ill gratuitously. The current pope is the one that > > > > > declared reporting predator priests to civil authorities to be an > > > > > unforgivable and damnable sin... but raping kids is a transitory and > > > > > understandable lapse in judgement. He did this as RATzinger, back when > > > > > he headed the investigative board in regards to predator priests. > > > > > > On Apr 8, 9:58 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey Fiddler, Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. ;-) > > > > > > > I just had to say that. It's not the idea of a god that is the > > > problem. It > > > > > > the way some people use that idea. The idea of God, imo, can be > > > helpful to > > > > > > some people. To give them hope, to not feel alone, to give purpose > > > to an > > > > > > otherwise purposeless life. Whatever hole they have they can fill > > > > > > up > > > with > > > > > > God. Yes, this is delusion. But in most people it is a harmless > > > one. > > > > > > Focus your passion against those that abuse religion and leave those > > > that > > > > > > worship in peace in peace. Torment the hypocrites and lairs, not > > > your > > > > > > average believer because most aren't a threat. Perhaps the Catholic > > > church > > > > > > deserves some of your anger or resentment or disgust. Focus that on > > > the > > > > > > institution and not let it prejudice you against all believers in a > > > 'higher > > > > > > power.' > > > > > > > Thems my opins and I'm stickin' to 'em. > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Then you haven't read my responses, you've projected your opinion. > > > I > > > > > > > am, most likely, the least emotional person here. I am passionate > > > in > > > > > > > my beliefs and sincerely despise the crushing amount of murder, > > > theft, > > > > > > > rape, destruction, etc., that religion breeds. > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 10:59 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Fiddler personally I think you are the most angry person in the > > > group.. > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > previous response say your ate angry with God.. your > > > Arch-rival.. you > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > so full of hate it boils over.. to the point you become > > > irrational. > > > > > > > > Sorry that is just the way I view you, the image you project. > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:37 AM, fiddler > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm not angry at god. I'm also not angry at Huck Finn, Captain > > > Ahab, > > > > > > > > > or Odysseus. It's a silly waste of time to try being angry at > > > > > > > > > fictional characters. The only difference between the three I > > > list and > > > > > > > > > the one you did, is that no one slaughters, rapes, maims, > > > steals from, > > > > > > > > > condemns, etc., other people because they believe that Huck or > > > Ahab > > > > > > > > > told them to. > > > > > > > > > I didn't call lee ridiculous, I called my interpretation of > > > > > > > > > his > > > idea > > > > > > > > > ridiculous. An idea that is put forth in a discussion group > > > > > > > > > may > > > be > > > > > > > > > bolstered, torn up, rounded upon, elevated, etc.. > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 12:49 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Fiddler, > > > > > > > > > > > I first want to say that you are savoir faire at formulating > > > your > > > > > > > > > > opinion, and think they challenge to think about. Secondly I > > > do not > > > > > > > > > > understand why you make a personal attack by saying someone > > > is > > > > > > > > > > ridicules. For example: Lee your ideas about Evil are stupid > > > because > > > > > > > > > > Evil is only a concept. (words are always concepts there > > > ain't no > > > > > > > > > > words that fully describe their meaning) Why is Lee his idea > > > about > > > > > > > > > > Evil stupid? > > > > > > > > > > 3 I get the feeling that you are angry at God because God > > > ain't > > > > > > > there, > > > > > > > > > > and that this is the result because your beliefs about God > > > have hurt > > > > > > > > > > you in the past. (not believing in God is something else > > > > > > > > > > than > > > being > > > > > > > > > > angry as a result of denial) What happened? > > > > > > > > > > > I have pointed this out because I think it is hurts people > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > attack their ideas and it is better to refute ideas/concepts > > > if you > > > > > > > > > > want to philosophise. (I think this also counts for more > > ... > > read more »
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