On 12 Apr, 20:49, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> I really hope fiddler finds the medical help he needs.
> Allan
>

That, too!!

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 12 Apr, 13:35, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > fiddler apparently left 'voluntarily'.
>
> > > My personal guess is that it was associated with:
> >http://www.aspergers.com/
>
> > I'll get out my 'String Theory' Quartet.  They play very small pieces,
> > you know?  ;-)
>
> > > On Apr 12, 5:29 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 11 Apr, 20:26, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Note to Mind's Eye members:
>
> > > > > fiddler is no longer a member of this group.
>
> > > > Ah, I didn'r see this before I wrote my response.  Funny how I thought
> > > > that might be the case.  Well done, all!!  I just wonder if Fidd
> > > > wasn't a long-lost twin of Chaz, but with a FAR shorter fuse.
>
> > > > > On Apr 11, 11:13 am, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > ?
>
> > > > > > On Apr 11, 5:33 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Yah sure ya did... Did the voices in your head set up your first
> > date
> > > > > > > with her?
>
> > > > > > > Anger and hatred, anger and hatred, ang...
> > > > > > > Fuck you fucktard, you are the one with a sickness.
>
> > > > > > > On Apr 11, 1:36 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Fiddler you amaze me,,
>
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:49 AM, fiddler <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > First: Mother teresa was an incredibly bad example to use,
> > she was
> > > > > > > > > quite warped in her opinion of people and suffering, as well
> > as not a
> > > > > > > > > believer for the last part of her life.
>
> > > > > > > > > First you never met Mother Teresa so how do you know what she
> > was like,,
>
> > > > > > > > hear say evidence?  or just your opinion? warped opinion..  not
> > really  I
> > > > > > > > can say that because I knew her. A non believer..  lol  I know
> > what she
> > > > > > > > wrote because she told me.. You have no idea of what she was
> > going through
> > > > > > > > ...  just your warped invaluable opinion.  From what i see is
> > based in anger
> > > > > > > > and hatred..  when you are ready to walk a mile in her shoes to
> > understand
> > > > > > > > her, then you might have a valued opinion
>
> > > > > > > > > Second: I'm angry because I keep being told I'm angry. It's
> > an insult
> > > > > > > > > that keeps being thrown at me and I'm damn tired of hearing
> > it. One of
> > > > > > > > > you reads an insult that wasn't there and I'm still hearing
> > about it,
> > > > > > > > > yet you all feel so good doing it to others.
>
> > > > > > > > You being angry is not an insult..  it is an observation as how
> > you are
> > > > > > > > coming across to me and others.. In the new testement which I
> > know you have
> > > > > > > > read or rather had drilled into you in your youth.. (you are
> > not old yet)
> > > > > > > > Jesus gave the advice that one first remove the plank from ones
> > own eye
> > > > > > > > befor trying to remove the speck from eye of another.
>
> > > > > > > > > Third: Where the hell are you getting that 95% from? Because
> > it can
> > > > > > > > > only be presto-digitation, which is "I need a number...oh I
> > know!" The
> > > > > > > > > fact is that many of the "normal" religious people
> > financially and
> > > > > > > > > tacitly support the "extremists." Religions wage war on
> > sinners...
> > > > > > > > > like the millions of aids sinners in Africa that are dying of
> > a
> > > > > > > > > perfectly preventable disease due to islam and christianity.
> > Like
> > > > > > > > > polio nearly being wiped out...right up until muslim leaders
> > began
> > > > > > > > > insisting that the vaccine would sterilise muslims. ETC..
>
> > > > > > > > Prestidigitation my my  those are pretty standard and accepted
> > figure that
> > > > > > > > can be backed up and it is being backable with figures,, but as
> > usual you
> > > > > > > > would not accept them as correct because it does not fit into
> > your angry
> > > > > > > > view of things.. If the "normal" religious people are support
> > the
> > > > > > > > "extremists" that can only logically translate that these
> > people are
> > > > > > > > supporting you because you definitively in my humble opinion
> > fall into the
> > > > > > > > category of extremist..
> > > > > > > > True to form you take the most distorted view and claim it is
> > the view of
> > > > > > > > every one else..  oh well.. sickness is sickness..
>
> > > > > > > > > Fourth: Howe exactly would you ban non-belief in mythology?
> > Oh ya...a
> > > > > > > > > return to the last 2.5 thousand years of executions committed
> > by the
> > > > > > > > > yhvh fan club...
>
> > > > > > > > Sorry Fiddler you are the one who want to ban people with bad
> > beliefs.. and
> > > > > > > > unfortunately atheist also fall into that 5% catagory of bad
> > people.. that
> > > > > > > > you want to ban..
> > > > > > > > Allan
> > > > > > > > Just my opinion.. and I speak for no one else..
>
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 8:26 am, Matthijs <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Fiddler,
>
> > > > > > > > > > So if I understand correctly you are not angry at God, you
> > are angry
> > > > > > > > > > at religion. Because religion make people do bad things. Or
> > are you
> > > > > > > > > > angry because people believe they have to do bad things
> > because their
> > > > > > > > > > interpretation of their religion said so?
>
> > > > > > > > > > As you know, not all people who are religious do bad
> > things, for
> > > > > > > > > > example mother Theresa did some good things in her live. So
> > I think
> > > > > > > > > > you mean that people should change their interpretation of
> > their
> > > > > > > > > > believe. And for some people, who become violent because of
> > their
> > > > > > > > > > believe that would be the right thing to do. So you have a
> > point
> > > > > > > > > > there, if I understood correctly. But I want to mention
> > that 95% of
> > > > > > > > > > religious people have good intentions and help others
> > because they
> > > > > > > > > > believe.So I think it is unfair to say that religion should
> > be banned.
> > > > > > > > > > There are also a lot of atheist people who do good things
> > but 5% did
> > > > > > > > > > some bad things, do you want to ban atheism too because
> > there are a
> > > > > > > > > > few people who do bad?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Matthijs
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 7:34 am, fiddler <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Actually, if you read my words directly, I already take
> > your advice. I
> > > > > > > > > > > don't believe any delusion to be harmless, however.
> > > > > > > > > > > At a skating rink they provide these "walker" type
> > assistance devices.
> > > > > > > > > > > The man that worked there pointed to numerous children
> > that were using
> > > > > > > > > > > them... and then told me how many months and years they
> > had been doing
> > > > > > > > > > > so.
> > > > > > > > > > > My daughter wet the bed every night, I made sure she wore
> > pull-ups. I
> > > > > > > > > > > told her I wasn't buying anymore... and she hasn't wet
> > the bed since.
> > > > > > > > > > > These are just a couple of examples where crutches don't
> > help.
> > > > > > > > > > > Religion is another. Every day that people deny reality
> > or hope for a
> > > > > > > > > > > better "afterlife," they are prevented from making this
> > life better
> > > > > > > > > > > for themselves and others.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > My focus has always been the religious institution. You
> > honestly have
> > > > > > > > > > > no idea of the amount of work and writing I do that
> > involves the
> > > > > > > > > > > Catholic church. If you'd like, I can start posting it
> > here, but I
> > > > > > > > > > > hate making people ill gratuitously. The current pope is
> > the one that
> > > > > > > > > > > declared reporting predator priests to civil authorities
> > to be an
> > > > > > > > > > > unforgivable and damnable sin... but raping kids is a
> > transitory and
> > > > > > > > > > > understandable lapse in judgement. He did this as
> > RATzinger, back when
> > > > > > > > > > > he headed the investigative board in regards to predator
> > priests.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 9:58 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Fiddler, Religion doesn't kill people, people kill
> > people. ;-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I just had to say that.  It's not the idea of a god
> > that is the
> > > > > > > > > problem.  It
> > > > > > > > > > > > the way some people use that idea.  The idea of God,
> > imo, can be
> > > > > > > > > helpful to
> > > > > > > > > > > > some people.  To give them hope, to not feel alone, to
> > give purpose
> > > > > > > > > to an
> > > > > > > > > > > > otherwise purposeless life.  Whatever hole they have
> > they can fill up
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > God.  Yes, this is delusion.  But in most people it is
> > a harmless
> > > > > > > > > one.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Focus your passion against those that abuse religion
> > and leave those
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > worship in peace in peace.  Torment the hypocrites and
> > lairs, not
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > average believer because most aren't a threat.  Perhaps
> > the Catholic
> > > > > > > > > church
> > > > > > > > > > > > deserves some of your anger or resentment or disgust.
> >  Focus that on
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > institution and not let it prejudice you against all
> > believers in a
> > > > > > > > > 'higher
> > > > > > > > > > > > power.'
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thems my opins and I'm stickin' to 'em.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > dj
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM, fiddler <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Then you haven't read my responses, you've projected
> > your opinion.
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > am, most likely, the least emotional person here. I
> > am passionate
>
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