On 11 Apr, 20:26, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > Note to Mind's Eye members: > > fiddler is no longer a member of this group. >
Ah, I didn'r see this before I wrote my response. Funny how I thought that might be the case. Well done, all!! I just wonder if Fidd wasn't a long-lost twin of Chaz, but with a FAR shorter fuse. > On Apr 11, 11:13 am, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ? > > > On Apr 11, 5:33 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yah sure ya did... Did the voices in your head set up your first date > > > with her? > > > > Anger and hatred, anger and hatred, ang... > > > Fuck you fucktard, you are the one with a sickness. > > > > On Apr 11, 1:36 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Fiddler you amaze me,, > > > > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:49 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > First: Mother teresa was an incredibly bad example to use, she was > > > > > quite warped in her opinion of people and suffering, as well as not a > > > > > believer for the last part of her life. > > > > > > First you never met Mother Teresa so how do you know what she was > > > > > like,, > > > > > hear say evidence? or just your opinion? warped opinion.. not really > > > > I > > > > can say that because I knew her. A non believer.. lol I know what she > > > > wrote because she told me.. You have no idea of what she was going > > > > through > > > > ... just your warped invaluable opinion. From what i see is based in > > > > anger > > > > and hatred.. when you are ready to walk a mile in her shoes to > > > > understand > > > > her, then you might have a valued opinion > > > > > > Second: I'm angry because I keep being told I'm angry. It's an insult > > > > > that keeps being thrown at me and I'm damn tired of hearing it. One of > > > > > you reads an insult that wasn't there and I'm still hearing about it, > > > > > yet you all feel so good doing it to others. > > > > > You being angry is not an insult.. it is an observation as how you are > > > > coming across to me and others.. In the new testement which I know you > > > > have > > > > read or rather had drilled into you in your youth.. (you are not old > > > > yet) > > > > Jesus gave the advice that one first remove the plank from ones own eye > > > > befor trying to remove the speck from eye of another. > > > > > > Third: Where the hell are you getting that 95% from? Because it can > > > > > only be presto-digitation, which is "I need a number...oh I know!" The > > > > > fact is that many of the "normal" religious people financially and > > > > > tacitly support the "extremists." Religions wage war on sinners... > > > > > like the millions of aids sinners in Africa that are dying of a > > > > > perfectly preventable disease due to islam and christianity. Like > > > > > polio nearly being wiped out...right up until muslim leaders began > > > > > insisting that the vaccine would sterilise muslims. ETC.. > > > > > Prestidigitation my my those are pretty standard and accepted figure > > > > that > > > > can be backed up and it is being backable with figures,, but as usual > > > > you > > > > would not accept them as correct because it does not fit into your angry > > > > view of things.. If the "normal" religious people are support the > > > > "extremists" that can only logically translate that these people are > > > > supporting you because you definitively in my humble opinion fall into > > > > the > > > > category of extremist.. > > > > True to form you take the most distorted view and claim it is the view > > > > of > > > > every one else.. oh well.. sickness is sickness.. > > > > > > Fourth: Howe exactly would you ban non-belief in mythology? Oh ya...a > > > > > return to the last 2.5 thousand years of executions committed by the > > > > > yhvh fan club... > > > > > Sorry Fiddler you are the one who want to ban people with bad beliefs.. > > > > and > > > > unfortunately atheist also fall into that 5% catagory of bad people.. > > > > that > > > > you want to ban.. > > > > Allan > > > > Just my opinion.. and I speak for no one else.. > > > > > > On Apr 10, 8:26 am, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Fiddler, > > > > > > > So if I understand correctly you are not angry at God, you are angry > > > > > > at religion. Because religion make people do bad things. Or are you > > > > > > angry because people believe they have to do bad things because > > > > > > their > > > > > > interpretation of their religion said so? > > > > > > > As you know, not all people who are religious do bad things, for > > > > > > example mother Theresa did some good things in her live. So I think > > > > > > you mean that people should change their interpretation of their > > > > > > believe. And for some people, who become violent because of their > > > > > > believe that would be the right thing to do. So you have a point > > > > > > there, if I understood correctly. But I want to mention that 95% of > > > > > > religious people have good intentions and help others because they > > > > > > believe.So I think it is unfair to say that religion should be > > > > > > banned. > > > > > > There are also a lot of atheist people who do good things but 5% did > > > > > > some bad things, do you want to ban atheism too because there are a > > > > > > few people who do bad? > > > > > > > Matthijs > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 7:34 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Actually, if you read my words directly, I already take your > > > > > > > advice. I > > > > > > > don't believe any delusion to be harmless, however. > > > > > > > At a skating rink they provide these "walker" type assistance > > > > > > > devices. > > > > > > > The man that worked there pointed to numerous children that were > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > them... and then told me how many months and years they had been > > > > > > > doing > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > My daughter wet the bed every night, I made sure she wore > > > > > > > pull-ups. I > > > > > > > told her I wasn't buying anymore... and she hasn't wet the bed > > > > > > > since. > > > > > > > These are just a couple of examples where crutches don't help. > > > > > > > Religion is another. Every day that people deny reality or hope > > > > > > > for a > > > > > > > better "afterlife," they are prevented from making this life > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > for themselves and others. > > > > > > > > My focus has always been the religious institution. You honestly > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > no idea of the amount of work and writing I do that involves the > > > > > > > Catholic church. If you'd like, I can start posting it here, but I > > > > > > > hate making people ill gratuitously. The current pope is the one > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > declared reporting predator priests to civil authorities to be an > > > > > > > unforgivable and damnable sin... but raping kids is a transitory > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > understandable lapse in judgement. He did this as RATzinger, back > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > he headed the investigative board in regards to predator priests. > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 9:58 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hey Fiddler, Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > I just had to say that. It's not the idea of a god that is the > > > > > problem. It > > > > > > > > the way some people use that idea. The idea of God, imo, can be > > > > > helpful to > > > > > > > > some people. To give them hope, to not feel alone, to give > > > > > > > > purpose > > > > > to an > > > > > > > > otherwise purposeless life. Whatever hole they have they can > > > > > > > > fill up > > > > > with > > > > > > > > God. Yes, this is delusion. But in most people it is a > > > > > > > > harmless > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > Focus your passion against those that abuse religion and leave > > > > > > > > those > > > > > that > > > > > > > > worship in peace in peace. Torment the hypocrites and lairs, > > > > > > > > not > > > > > your > > > > > > > > average believer because most aren't a threat. Perhaps the > > > > > > > > Catholic > > > > > church > > > > > > > > deserves some of your anger or resentment or disgust. Focus > > > > > > > > that on > > > > > the > > > > > > > > institution and not let it prejudice you against all believers > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > 'higher > > > > > > > > power.' > > > > > > > > > Thems my opins and I'm stickin' to 'em. > > > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM, fiddler > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Then you haven't read my responses, you've projected your > > > > > > > > > opinion. > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > am, most likely, the least emotional person here. I am > > > > > > > > > passionate > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my beliefs and sincerely despise the crushing amount of > > > > > > > > > murder, > > > > > theft, > > > > > > > > > rape, destruction, etc., that religion breeds. > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 10:59 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Fiddler personally I think you are the most angry person in > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > group.. > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > previous response say your ate angry with God.. your > > > > > Arch-rival.. you > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > so full of hate it boils over.. to the point you become > > > > > irrational. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry that is just the way I view you, the image you > > > > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:37 AM, fiddler > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not angry at god. I'm also not angry at Huck Finn, > > > > > > > > > > > Captain > > > > > Ahab, > > > > > > > > > > > or Odysseus. It's a silly waste of time to try being > > > > > > > > > > > angry at > > > > > > > > > > > fictional characters. The only difference between the > > > > > > > > > > > three I > > > > > list and > > > > > > > > > > > the one you did, is that no one slaughters, rapes, maims, > > > > > steals from, > > > > > > > > > > > condemns, etc., other people because they believe that > > > > > > > > > > > Huck or > > > > > Ahab > > > > > > > > > > > told them to. > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't call lee ridiculous, I called my interpretation > > > > > > > > > > > of his > > > > > idea > > > > > > > > > > > ridiculous. An idea that is put forth in a discussion > > > > > > > > > > > group may > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > bolstered, torn up, rounded upon, elevated, etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 12:49 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Fiddler, > > > > > > > > > > > > > I first want to say that you are savoir faire at > > > > > > > > > > > > formulating > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > opinion, and think they challenge to think about. > > > > > > > > > > > > Secondly I > > > > > do not > > > > > > > > > > > > understand why you make a personal attack by saying > > > > > > > > > > > > someone > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > ridicules. For example: Lee your ideas > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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