Sounds optimistic but considering the history of humanity its simply
delusion of Utopia.  If anything the core idea of tribalism might have
a chance.

On Jun 11, 8:53 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> That is exactly what I've had in mind, go to the roots of each and
> promote the best each has to offer. Capitalism has great potential,
> socialism has great securities, and I agree with tribalism in the sense
> of the expanded community (cradle to grave). That should be the basis of
> the social contract and put in place as soon as a society is capable.
> Also if community/national service were an actual duty, and selection
> performed by a neutral lottery, certain ---holes might take things a
> little more seriously. They lose as much as others, I say send the
> people responsible for the oil spill out to do clean up along with the
> people losing their health, businesses and we'll see changes quickly.
>
> On 6/11/2010 7:14 PM, gruff wrote:
>
> > Hey, Slip.  It's a melding of the two I'm talking about.  There is no
> > valid reason a wealthy and robust economy can't take care of it's
> > members, even unto the least of them.   However, there are number of
> > invalid reasons: greed, selfishness, ego, fear, etc. etc. etc.
>
> > On Jun 11, 2:56 pm, Slip Disc<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> >> Double posting Gruff?  Good to see you emerging from a long hiatus,
> >> leave it to capitalistic dialogue to lure you in.  Either that or the
> >> desert heat is pointing to a better indoor environment and more time
> >> on the computer.
>
> >> As usual I wish I could wholeheartedly agree with you but regardless
> >> of how much better poverty seems in the current light it doesn't
> >> change the fact that much of capitalism is causal to poverty.  I could
> >> agree with the behavioral aspect to which you point to as being a huge
> >> flaw but not as it being the only one.  There is much to be done to
> >> improve the system but then again we could also tweak socialism to be
> >> a better system and perhaps a melding of the two might bring about a
> >> whole new perspective on social governance.

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