I'd say it's the delusion of materialism and it's an ancient curse to all cultures that have examined the futility of this fantasy. It is interesting living in a lovely home and having well-to-do friends and having very little money in my adult life and liking it that way. I owe that to early years at boarding school and summer camp when life was taken care of and simply lived versus an extravagant home life that was unhappy and chaotic. One can have a great sense of accomplishment without getting paid in money or goods- in fact I think money diminishes the effort made so I avoided compensations- probably from the time I was a young girl. It works for me! :-)
Slip Disc wrote: > Sounds optimistic but considering the history of humanity its simply > delusion of Utopia. If anything the core idea of tribalism might have > a chance. > > On Jun 11, 8:53 pm, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > That is exactly what I've had in mind, go to the roots of each and > > promote the best each has to offer. Capitalism has great potential, > > socialism has great securities, and I agree with tribalism in the sense > > of the expanded community (cradle to grave). That should be the basis of > > the social contract and put in place as soon as a society is capable. > > Also if community/national service were an actual duty, and selection > > performed by a neutral lottery, certain ---holes might take things a > > little more seriously. They lose as much as others, I say send the > > people responsible for the oil spill out to do clean up along with the > > people losing their health, businesses and we'll see changes quickly. > > > > On 6/11/2010 7:14 PM, gruff wrote: > > > > > Hey, Slip. It's a melding of the two I'm talking about. There is no > > > valid reason a wealthy and robust economy can't take care of it's > > > members, even unto the least of them. However, there are number of > > > invalid reasons: greed, selfishness, ego, fear, etc. etc. etc. > > > > > On Jun 11, 2:56 pm, Slip Disc<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Double posting Gruff? Good to see you emerging from a long hiatus, > > >> leave it to capitalistic dialogue to lure you in. Either that or the > > >> desert heat is pointing to a better indoor environment and more time > > >> on the computer. > > > > >> As usual I wish I could wholeheartedly agree with you but regardless > > >> of how much better poverty seems in the current light it doesn't > > >> change the fact that much of capitalism is causal to poverty. I could > > >> agree with the behavioral aspect to which you point to as being a huge > > >> flaw but not as it being the only one. There is much to be done to > > >> improve the system but then again we could also tweak socialism to be > > >> a better system and perhaps a melding of the two might bring about a > > >> whole new perspective on social governance.
