I see what you mean by "loud mouth". Not very pleasant, indeed. The Swan Song tunes come across so much more agreeable.
On 23 Jun., 07:13, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > Adore or Insult ... you'd be doing either, or anything in between, > for your own reasons ... > > What would interest me and others here are your responses to my > observation / query on your previous post : > > " You've judged prematurely, Donna ! > > " Evolving ( in one's knowledge and understanding, and empowerment ) > does NOT equate " correcting the meaning making process." > > " And yes, as suggested by you, I'm asking you : What is the heart > of > the matter ? And, what gets there ? " > > Allow me to observe : If you run away from an online conversation > prompted by yourself, you'd have very little adoration for yourself ! > > On Jun 23, 2:10 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That term happens to be my name. Plus I am Gemini and Ape. So please > > don't expect me to silently adore you. > > > On 22 Jun., 19:32, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Donna was part of her user name in a previous avatar that I prefer > > > over gabs, which term I associate with ( loud ) mouth ! > > > > On Jun 22, 8:48 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Why do you call gabby Donna?? > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:48 PM, vamadevananda > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > You've judged prematurely, Donna ! > > > > > > Evolving ( in one's knowledge and understanding, and empowerment ) > > > > > does NOT equate " correcting the meaning making process." > > > > > > And yes, as suggested by you, I'm asking you : What is the heart of > > > > > the matter ? And, what gets there ? > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:01 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Working on correcting the meaning making process doesn't get to the > > > > > > heart of the matter, if you would ask me, my dear friend. ;-) > > > > > > > On 21 Jun., 23:54, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay ... though my use of the word content has been > > > > > > > misinterpreted by > > > > > > > you as meaning " content with wat we have ! " What I meant was > > > > > > > settled, as in knowing even when facing the unknown, confident > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > when apprehensive or fearful, happy even while wanting, ... and so > > > > > > > on ... which comes from knowing life and our self very > > > > > > > intimately, > > > > > > > over long time scales, in that everything passes yielding > > > > > > > knowledge to > > > > > > > the aware and fully alert intellect, leaving nothing for the > > > > > > > subconscious and ourself free, unencumbered, more empowered. > > > > > > > > The fact is that, in common with other animals, we are Body - > > > > > > > Food - > > > > > > > Sex - Emotion - Subconscious - Power seeking and Willful beings. > > > > > > > No > > > > > > > amount of family, formal education, money, position, status, > > > > > > > marriage, > > > > > > > age ... and everything else ... is ever going to change that > > > > > > > primary > > > > > > > fact. Engage all we might to satisfy ourselves, the hunger would > > > > > > > return in 5 minutes, hours or days, weeks, months or years. The > > > > > > > repetitive phenomena is so obvious, an entire economy is busy > > > > > > > spicing > > > > > > > things up for us, our body, food and sex, with the money and > > > > > > > power we > > > > > > > have, to meet our desires, willfulness, whims or caprices. This > > > > > > > Emotion - Subconsciousness - Will arrangement is natural, as in > > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > provided in nature, largely reflexive or involuntary, situational > > > > > > > or ' > > > > > > > seasonal,' primarily to serve our survival and procreational ends. > > > > > > > > But even this cyclic routine is accompanied with consequences, > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > obvious to the alert self, which then begins to doubt, think and > > > > > > > question, through all the emotion filled experiences : happy, sad, > > > > > > > pleasant, miserable, found, lost. That's when we are identified > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > the mind, in which the thinking processes take place, in which > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > get formed, both of the objects we physically - emotionally need > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > of our experiences, and hence of ourself. > > > > > > > > This is as far as Duryodhana would evolve, when he confesses : O > > > > > > > Krishna, it's not that I do not know what is right or wrong, good > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > bad. It's just that I cannot help myself to what is right, what is > > > > > > > good, and choose the wrong and the bad instead. He exemplifies the > > > > > > > Outside - In processes, in mental beings, as Molly so often > > > > > > > reminds > > > > > > > us. > > > > > > > > Arjuna's evolution takes another path : when Knowledge and > > > > > > > Understanding become the primary characterstic of our being ... > > > > > > > > It's too late in the night, Kid ... maybe some other time. Or, > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > still, come over and spend a weekend participating in The Meaning > > > > > > > Workshop ! > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:49 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > .. you said that we often spend our lives with fear and a > > > > > > > > feeling of > > > > > > > > nothingness and doubt.. and that we'd rather be self content > > > > > > > > with wat > > > > > we > > > > > > > > have... thats wat i was trying to tell you...this whole > > > > > > > > experience... > > > > > my > > > > > > > > experience(limited as it may be)..of the world .. being a part > > > > > > > > of > > > > > it...and > > > > > > > > of everything that constitutes it.. comes to me with a great > > > > > force...you > > > > > > > > know if i was just better at explaining things my proffesors > > > > > > > > would > > > > > grade me > > > > > > > > better;-) > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:11 AM, vamadevananda < > > > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " uh... i was just hoping to get an explanation about its > > > > > > > > > occurence > > > > > > > > > thats all.. really " > > > > > > > > > > My apologies, Kid, for having offered a suggestion rather > > > > > powerfully, > > > > > > > > > when you were not only not looking for one but were actually > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > for something entirely different. > > > > > > > > > > " it all(everything) and no matter how little it may be > > > > > > > > > now...in > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > its completeness and enormity... comes in a vertiginous > > > > > > > > > sensation > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > me..and i kinda enjoy it " > > > > > > > > > > This is not decodable, Kid ! What is " all ( everything )" ? > > > > > > > > > And, > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > is it " little " now ? What completeness and enormity ... > > > > > > > > > comes in > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > vertiginous sensation ? > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:20 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I dont know vam...it all(everything) and no matter how > > > > > > > > > > little it > > > > > may be > > > > > > > > > > now...in all its completeness and enormity... comes in a > > > > > vertiginous > > > > > > > > > > sensation to me..and i kinda enjoy it > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:25 AM, vamadevananda < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, Kid, are you meaning the mere idea or the real one ? > > > > > Which > > > > > > > > > > > parallel universe are you referring to ? There are > > > > > > > > > > > trillions > > > > > of them, > > > > > > > > > > > you know ! > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, the one created for and by you, is the > > > > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > important one ... isn't it ? What are you doing about > > > > > > > > > > > that ... > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > those unknowns in it, subconscious in it, mental in it ... > > > > > spewing > > > > > > > > > > > dissatisfactions, incompletions, inadequacies, > > > > > > > > > > > nothingnesses, > > > > > doubts, > > > > > > > > > > > fears, false but necessary dogmas, those horribly > > > > > > > > > > > misplaced > > > > > ideas and > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs you have of yourself ... etc. ... continuing, > > > > > > > > > > > from god > > > > > knows > > > > > > > > > > > when, to god knows when ... leaving you stranded really, > > > > > wanting, > > > > > > > > > > > unsure, preoccupied, dark ... ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ... that was my way of suggesting that we all ought > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > get more > > > > > > > > > > > real about ourselves, more knowing and clear in our > > > > > > > > > > > actions, > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > less and less mental, with less and less subconscious, > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > > > > > content, more self - empowered to infuse strength and > > > > > > > > > > > cheer > > > > > among > > > > > > > > > > > those about us, more battle ready against that wrong > > > > > > > > > > > thrust > > > > > upon us, > > > > > > > > > > > more free of want and dissatisfaction and fear ... well, > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps seem like a trillion mile journey, but no > > > > > > > > > > > worries, we > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > need to concern ourselves with just the one that needs to > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > > > now ! > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the Work In Progress, or Regress. Yes, I am talking > > > > > about us. > > > > > > > > > > > What's more important than that ! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 12:10 am, "pol.science kid" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So how does the idea of parallel uiverse figure in the > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > chain > > > > > > > > > > > > of events? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Pat < > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18 June, 13:09, "[email protected]" < > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes RP I agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We do it seems have much choice, and we do indeed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > often > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > none. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > An accident, will change the choices that we have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and so > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > choices > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we make. The future is not defined, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein proved that incorrect 105 years ago. Proved! > > > > > Since then, > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > has never been disproved, rather, only supported. > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is > > > > > truth, > > ... > > Erfahren Sie mehr »
