On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > I see what you mean by "loud mouth".
It seems you might not be truly seeing ... the association of the word " Gab " with " ( loud ) mouth " is entirely mine, for my own reasons, which has nothing to do with you. " Not very pleasant, indeed." It is because I found the association unpleasant that I choose Donna over Gabs or Gabby. If you find my use of Donna objectionable, please let me know. I'll never use it again. And, in fact, sincerely apologise for having done so in the past. That's the truth. " The Swan Song tunes come across so much more agreeable." Yeah, it did suggest a possible comeback. Much water has since flown under that bridge ! I sense your hurt and must let you know that that was never in my intent. > On 23 Jun., 07:13, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Adore or Insult ... you'd be doing either, or anything in between, > > for your own reasons ... > > > What would interest me and others here are your responses to my > > observation / query on your previous post : > > > " You've judged prematurely, Donna ! > > > " Evolving ( in one's knowledge and understanding, and empowerment ) > > does NOT equate " correcting the meaning making process." > > > " And yes, as suggested by you, I'm asking you : What is the heart > > of > > the matter ? And, what gets there ? " > > > Allow me to observe : If you run away from an online conversation > > prompted by yourself, you'd have very little adoration for yourself ! > > > On Jun 23, 2:10 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That term happens to be my name. Plus I am Gemini and Ape. So please > > > don't expect me to silently adore you. > > > > On 22 Jun., 19:32, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Donna was part of her user name in a previous avatar that I prefer > > > > over gabs, which term I associate with ( loud ) mouth ! > > > > > On Jun 22, 8:48 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Why do you call gabby Donna?? > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:48 PM, vamadevananda > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > You've judged prematurely, Donna ! > > > > > > > Evolving ( in one's knowledge and understanding, and empowerment ) > > > > > > does NOT equate " correcting the meaning making process." > > > > > > > And yes, as suggested by you, I'm asking you : What is the heart of > > > > > > the matter ? And, what gets there ? > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:01 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Working on correcting the meaning making process doesn't get to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > heart of the matter, if you would ask me, my dear friend. ;-) > > > > > > > > On 21 Jun., 23:54, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Okay ... though my use of the word content has been > > > > > > > > misinterpreted by > > > > > > > > you as meaning " content with wat we have ! " What I meant was > > > > > > > > settled, as in knowing even when facing the unknown, confident > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > when apprehensive or fearful, happy even while wanting, ... and > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > on ... which comes from knowing life and our self very > > > > > > > > intimately, > > > > > > > > over long time scales, in that everything passes yielding > > > > > > > > knowledge to > > > > > > > > the aware and fully alert intellect, leaving nothing for the > > > > > > > > subconscious and ourself free, unencumbered, more empowered. > > > > > > > > > The fact is that, in common with other animals, we are Body - > > > > > > > > Food - > > > > > > > > Sex - Emotion - Subconscious - Power seeking and Willful > > > > > > > > beings. No > > > > > > > > amount of family, formal education, money, position, status, > > > > > > > > marriage, > > > > > > > > age ... and everything else ... is ever going to change that > > > > > > > > primary > > > > > > > > fact. Engage all we might to satisfy ourselves, the hunger would > > > > > > > > return in 5 minutes, hours or days, weeks, months or years. The > > > > > > > > repetitive phenomena is so obvious, an entire economy is busy > > > > > > > > spicing > > > > > > > > things up for us, our body, food and sex, with the money and > > > > > > > > power we > > > > > > > > have, to meet our desires, willfulness, whims or caprices. This > > > > > > > > Emotion - Subconsciousness - Will arrangement is natural, as in > > > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > > provided in nature, largely reflexive or involuntary, > > > > > > > > situational or ' > > > > > > > > seasonal,' primarily to serve our survival and procreational > > > > > > > > ends. > > > > > > > > > But even this cyclic routine is accompanied with consequences, > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > obvious to the alert self, which then begins to doubt, think and > > > > > > > > question, through all the emotion filled experiences : happy, > > > > > > > > sad, > > > > > > > > pleasant, miserable, found, lost. That's when we are identified > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the mind, in which the thinking processes take place, in which > > > > > > > > ideas > > > > > > > > get formed, both of the objects we physically - emotionally > > > > > > > > need and > > > > > > > > of our experiences, and hence of ourself. > > > > > > > > > This is as far as Duryodhana would evolve, when he confesses : O > > > > > > > > Krishna, it's not that I do not know what is right or wrong, > > > > > > > > good and > > > > > > > > bad. It's just that I cannot help myself to what is right, what > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > good, and choose the wrong and the bad instead. He exemplifies > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Outside - In processes, in mental beings, as Molly so often > > > > > > > > reminds > > > > > > > > us. > > > > > > > > > Arjuna's evolution takes another path : when Knowledge and > > > > > > > > Understanding become the primary characterstic of our being ... > > > > > > > > > It's too late in the night, Kid ... maybe some other time. Or, > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > still, come over and spend a weekend participating in The > > > > > > > > Meaning > > > > > > > > Workshop ! > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:49 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > .. you said that we often spend our lives with fear and a > > > > > > > > > feeling of > > > > > > > > > nothingness and doubt.. and that we'd rather be self content > > > > > > > > > with wat > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > have... thats wat i was trying to tell you...this whole > > > > > > > > > experience... > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > experience(limited as it may be)..of the world .. being a > > > > > > > > > part of > > > > > > it...and > > > > > > > > > of everything that constitutes it.. comes to me with a great > > > > > > force...you > > > > > > > > > know if i was just better at explaining things my proffesors > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > grade me > > > > > > > > > better;-) > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:11 AM, vamadevananda < > > > > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > " uh... i was just hoping to get an explanation about its > > > > > > > > > > occurence > > > > > > > > > > thats all.. really " > > > > > > > > > > > My apologies, Kid, for having offered a suggestion rather > > > > > > powerfully, > > > > > > > > > > when you were not only not looking for one but were actually > > > > > > looking > > > > > > > > > > for something entirely different. > > > > > > > > > > > " it all(everything) and no matter how little it may be > > > > > > > > > > now...in > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > its completeness and enormity... comes in a vertiginous > > > > > > > > > > sensation > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > me..and i kinda enjoy it " > > > > > > > > > > > This is not decodable, Kid ! What is " all ( everything )" > > > > > > > > > > ? And, > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > is it " little " now ? What completeness and enormity ... > > > > > > > > > > comes in > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > vertiginous sensation ? > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:20 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know vam...it all(everything) and no matter how > > > > > > > > > > > little it > > > > > > may be > > > > > > > > > > > now...in all its completeness and enormity... comes in a > > > > > > vertiginous > > > > > > > > > > > sensation to me..and i kinda enjoy it > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:25 AM, vamadevananda < > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, Kid, are you meaning the mere idea or the real one > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > Which > > > > > > > > > > > > parallel universe are you referring to ? There are > > > > > > > > > > > > trillions > > > > > > of them, > > > > > > > > > > > > you know ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, the one created for and by you, is > > > > > > > > > > > > the most > > > > > > > > > > > > important one ... isn't it ? What are you doing about > > > > > > > > > > > > that ... > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > those unknowns in it, subconscious in it, mental in it > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > spewing > > > > > > > > > > > > dissatisfactions, incompletions, inadequacies, > > > > > > > > > > > > nothingnesses, > > > > > > doubts, > > > > > > > > > > > > fears, false but necessary dogmas, those horribly > > > > > > > > > > > > misplaced > > > > > > ideas and > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs you have of yourself ... etc. ... continuing, > > > > > > > > > > > > from god > > > > > > knows > > > > > > > > > > > > when, to god knows when ... leaving you stranded > > > > > > > > > > > > really, > > > > > > wanting, > > > > > > > > > > > > unsure, preoccupied, dark ... ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ... that was my way of suggesting that we all > > > > > > > > > > > > ought to > > > > > > get more > > > > > > > > > > > > real about ourselves, more knowing and clear in our > > > > > > > > > > > > actions, > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > less and less mental, with less and less subconscious, > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > happy and > > > > > > > > > > > > content, more self - empowered to infuse strength and > > > > > > > > > > > > cheer > > > > > > among > > > > > > > > > > > > those about us, more battle ready against that wrong > > > > > > > > > > > > thrust > > > > > > upon us, > > > > > > > > > > > > more free of want and dissatisfaction and fear ... > > > > > > > > > > > > well, that > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps seem like a trillion mile journey, but no > > > > > > > > > > > > worries, we > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > > > > need to concern ourselves with just the one that needs > > > > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > > > > now ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are the Work In Progress, or Regress. Yes, I am > > > > > > > > > > > > talking > > > > > > about us. > > > > > > > > > > > > What's more important than that ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 12:10 am, "pol.science kid" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > So how does the idea of parallel uiverse figure in the > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > decided > > > > > > > > > > > > chain > > > > > > > > > > > > > of events? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Pat < > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18 June, 13:09, "[email protected]" < > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes RP I agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We > > ... > > read more »
