Well ( laughing ) ...  what can I do if the association indeed
exists !  I suppose it suggests of someone who can speak well, which
should be a compliment.

On Jun 23, 10:10 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> I object to your "entirely mine", that's what I do.
>
> In this case, find some more reasons 
> here:http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=gab&searchmode=none
>
> On 23 Jun., 16:14, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 6:34 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I see what you mean by "loud mouth".
>
> > It seems you might not be truly seeing ... the association of the word
> > " Gab " with " ( loud ) mouth " is entirely mine, for my own reasons,
> > which has nothing to do with you.
>
> > " Not very pleasant, indeed."
>
> > It is because I found the association unpleasant that I choose Donna
> > over Gabs or Gabby. If you find my use of Donna objectionable, please
> > let me know. I'll never use it again. And, in fact, sincerely
> > apologise for having done so in the past. That's the truth.
>
> > " The Swan Song tunes come across so much more agreeable."
>
> > Yeah, it did suggest a possible comeback. Much water has since flown
> > under that bridge !
>
> > I sense your hurt and must let you know that that was never in my
> > intent.
>
> > > On 23 Jun., 07:13, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Adore or Insult ...  you'd be doing either, or anything in between,
> > > > for your own reasons ...
>
> > > > What would interest me and others here are your responses to my
> > > > observation / query on your previous post :
>
> > > > " You've judged prematurely, Donna !
>
> > > > " Evolving ( in one's knowledge and understanding, and empowerment )
> > > > does NOT equate " correcting the meaning making process."
>
> > > > " And yes, as suggested by you, I'm asking you :  What is the heart
> > > > of
> > > > the matter ? And, what gets there ? "
>
> > > > Allow me to observe :  If you run away from an online conversation
> > > > prompted by yourself, you'd have very little adoration for yourself !
>
> > > > On Jun 23, 2:10 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > That term happens to be my name. Plus I am Gemini and Ape. So please
> > > > > don't expect me to silently adore you.
>
> > > > > On 22 Jun., 19:32, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Donna was part of her user name in a previous avatar that I prefer
> > > > > > over gabs, which term I associate with ( loud ) mouth !
>
> > > > > > On Jun 22, 8:48 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Why do you call gabby Donna??
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:48 PM, vamadevananda 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You've judged prematurely, Donna !
>
> > > > > > > > Evolving ( in one's knowledge and understanding, and 
> > > > > > > > empowerment )
> > > > > > > > does NOT equate " correcting the meaning making process."
>
> > > > > > > > And yes, as suggested by you, I'm asking you :  What is the 
> > > > > > > > heart of
> > > > > > > > the matter ? And, what gets there ?
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:01 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Working on correcting the meaning making process doesn't get 
> > > > > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > heart of the matter, if you would ask me, my dear friend. ;-)
>
> > > > > > > > > On 21 Jun., 23:54, vamadevananda <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Okay ...  though my use of the word content has been 
> > > > > > > > > > misinterpreted by
> > > > > > > > > > you as meaning " content with wat we have ! " What I meant 
> > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > settled, as in knowing even when facing the unknown, 
> > > > > > > > > > confident even
> > > > > > > > > > when apprehensive or fearful, happy even while wanting, ... 
> > > > > > > > > > and so
> > > > > > > > > > on ...  which comes from knowing life and our self very 
> > > > > > > > > > intimately,
> > > > > > > > > > over long time scales, in that everything passes yielding 
> > > > > > > > > > knowledge to
> > > > > > > > > > the aware and fully alert intellect, leaving nothing for the
> > > > > > > > > > subconscious and ourself free, unencumbered, more empowered.
>
> > > > > > > > > > The fact is that, in common with other animals, we are Body 
> > > > > > > > > > - Food -
> > > > > > > > > > Sex - Emotion - Subconscious - Power seeking and Willful 
> > > > > > > > > > beings. No
> > > > > > > > > > amount of family, formal education, money, position, 
> > > > > > > > > > status, marriage,
> > > > > > > > > > age ...  and everything else ... is ever going to change 
> > > > > > > > > > that primary
> > > > > > > > > > fact. Engage all we might to satisfy ourselves, the hunger 
> > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > return in 5 minutes, hours or days, weeks, months or years. 
> > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > repetitive phenomena is so obvious, an entire economy is 
> > > > > > > > > > busy spicing
> > > > > > > > > > things up for us, our body, food and sex, with the money 
> > > > > > > > > > and power we
> > > > > > > > > > have, to meet our desires, willfulness, whims or caprices. 
> > > > > > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > Emotion - Subconsciousness - Will arrangement is natural, 
> > > > > > > > > > as in it is
> > > > > > > > > > provided in nature, largely reflexive or involuntary, 
> > > > > > > > > > situational or '
> > > > > > > > > > seasonal,' primarily to serve our survival and 
> > > > > > > > > > procreational ends.
>
> > > > > > > > > > But even this cyclic routine is accompanied with 
> > > > > > > > > > consequences, also
> > > > > > > > > > obvious to the alert self, which then begins to doubt, 
> > > > > > > > > > think and
> > > > > > > > > > question, through all the emotion filled experiences : 
> > > > > > > > > > happy, sad,
> > > > > > > > > > pleasant, miserable, found, lost. That's when we are 
> > > > > > > > > > identified with
> > > > > > > > > > the mind, in which the thinking processes take place, in 
> > > > > > > > > > which ideas
> > > > > > > > > > get formed, both of the objects we physically - emotionally 
> > > > > > > > > > need and
> > > > > > > > > > of our experiences, and hence of ourself.
>
> > > > > > > > > > This is as far as Duryodhana would evolve, when he 
> > > > > > > > > > confesses : O
> > > > > > > > > > Krishna, it's not that I do not know what is right or 
> > > > > > > > > > wrong, good and
> > > > > > > > > > bad. It's just that I cannot help myself to what is right, 
> > > > > > > > > > what is
> > > > > > > > > > good, and choose the wrong and the bad instead. He 
> > > > > > > > > > exemplifies the
> > > > > > > > > > Outside - In processes, in mental beings, as Molly so often 
> > > > > > > > > > reminds
> > > > > > > > > > us.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Arjuna's evolution takes another path : when Knowledge and
> > > > > > > > > > Understanding become the primary characterstic of our being 
> > > > > > > > > > ...
>
> > > > > > > > > > It's too late in the night, Kid ...  maybe some other time. 
> > > > > > > > > > Or, better
> > > > > > > > > > still, come over and spend a weekend participating in The 
> > > > > > > > > > Meaning
> > > > > > > > > > Workshop !
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:49 am, "pol.science kid" 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > .. you said that we often spend our lives with fear and a 
> > > > > > > > > > > feeling of
> > > > > > > > > > > nothingness and doubt.. and that we'd rather be self 
> > > > > > > > > > > content with wat
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > have... thats wat i was trying to tell you...this whole 
> > > > > > > > > > > experience...
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > experience(limited as it may be)..of the world .. being a 
> > > > > > > > > > > part of
> > > > > > > > it...and
> > > > > > > > > > > of everything that constitutes it.. comes to me with a 
> > > > > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > force...you
> > > > > > > > > > > know if i was just better at explaining things my 
> > > > > > > > > > > proffesors would
> > > > > > > > grade me
> > > > > > > > > > > better;-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:11 AM, vamadevananda <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > " uh... i was just hoping to get an explanation about 
> > > > > > > > > > > > its occurence
> > > > > > > > > > > > thats all.. really "
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > My apologies, Kid, for having offered a suggestion 
> > > > > > > > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > powerfully,
> > > > > > > > > > > > when you were not only not looking for one but were 
> > > > > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > looking
> > > > > > > > > > > > for something entirely different.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > " it all(everything) and no matter how little it may be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > now...in
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > its completeness and enormity... comes in a vertiginous 
> > > > > > > > > > > > sensation
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > me..and i kinda enjoy it "
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > This is not decodable, Kid ! What is " all ( everything 
> > > > > > > > > > > > )" ?  And,
> > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > > > is it " little " now ?  What completeness and enormity 
> > > > > > > > > > > > ... comes in
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > vertiginous sensation ?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 1:20 am, "pol.science kid" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know vam...it all(everything) and no matter 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how little it
> > > > > > > > may be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > now...in all its completeness and enormity... comes 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > vertiginous
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sensation to me..and i kinda enjoy it
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 1:25 AM, vamadevananda <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, Kid, are you meaning the mere idea or the real 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > one ?
> > > > > > > >  Which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > parallel universe are you referring to ?  There are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > trillions
> > > > > > > > of them,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you know !
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, the one created for and by you, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the most
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > important one ... isn't it ?  What are you doing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about that ...
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > those unknowns in it, subconscious in it, mental in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it ...
> > > > > > > > spewing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dissatisfactions, incompletions, inadequacies, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothingnesses,
> > > > > > > > doubts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fears, false but necessary dogmas, those horribly 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > misplaced
> > > > > > > > ideas and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs you have of yourself ... etc. ... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > continuing, from god
> > > > > > > > knows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > when, to god knows when ...  leaving you stranded 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > really,
> > > > > > > > wanting,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > unsure, preoccupied, dark ... ...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ... that was my way of suggesting that we all 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ought to
> > > > > > > > get more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > real about ourselves, more knowing and clear in our 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > actions,
>
> ...
>
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