I posted does love go above all. The power of love is good. But I have found that good and love without the power on high does not compare on high. The reason for this is the issue's on this earth. I will agree on ridiculous ideologies. Yes it is true about the issue's on foreigners and if I was in their country than I would be a foreigner. If you think we are going to be one melting pot and this will stop the each country to take care of their own children or people first,but when the countrie's allow none citizen's of these countrie's to over run and be disrupeters of that peace this is another matter. Love is good. But you would be suprised that the foreigner's that hate america, or UK or any other countries more than people. There are vast issue's on the earth and alot of the issue's do not bring peace . Blessed are the peacemakers. We have different culture's upon this earth and it was meant to be. It was no accident of this. I know this when the nation that quits listen to the backbone of a nation which is the people of that nation and sell it out to the Company's and the rich that can afford to do as they please and do not take in consideration of what is good for the people. I believe in peace but I also belive it is important not too loose what is more than good.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually I have no nation to which I reference and my human ancestry > consists of foreigners, however, being alien to this planet and mainly > in character as an observer I find that too much emphasis is placed > upon ridiculous ideologies such as race and creed which ultimately > lead to animosity, hatred and killing. "When the power of love > overcomes the love of power we can have peace"..........close to a > jimi hendrix quote off the top of my head after a bottle and a half > BUT the relevancy is there; you get the picture. The human race is > comprised of mostly assholes who are trying desperately to portray > themselves as being viable; unfortunately asshole is as asshole does. > Do we really need to create our own immortality through extravaganza? > Does fame and notoriety really matter? > > On Aug 10, 12:33 pm, Jean Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > When foreigner's come from other countries's and your nation has big > changes > > in this area their are many concerns and fear's. > > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jean Briscoe <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > Do you think it is right and limited. That is The neighborhood belongs > to > > > the culture that it occupies? It is somewhat new to me of this > outlook. I > > > geuss a person without a land and a culture is left out. No country,no > > > place. And could this cause fear? > > > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> That is exactly what the Cultural Evolution thread is basically all > > >> about; people finding groups of like thinkers without regard for good > > >> or bad, positive or negative. It's the old adage Birds of a feather > > >> flock together. > > >> It is also the basis of much of gruff's xenophobia in that the more > > >> groups increasing in number that are incongruous with others the more > > >> potential there is for fear which can lead to violence. The > > >> neighborhood belongs to the culture that occupies it. > > > > >> On Aug 9, 10:05 am, Jean Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > I enjoyed what you said and it is well put. Sometimes a > verification > > >> let > > >> > some know that others think somewhat the same way. > > > > >> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > ..............how do we confront a level of fear that > > >> > > allows us to get past it and function more fully without stripping > > >> > > away that portion which keeps us from being vanquished by the > world? > > > > >> > > As individual units we can adjust our sense of fear accordingly > and > > >> > > within the parameters of our environmental circumstance but as a > > >> > > global society I don't see anything changing for the better or for > the > > >> > > worse. Global fears would have to be replaced with global trusts > in > > >> > > order to circumvent what seems to have been the mode de jeur for > > >> > > centuries. Private gated communities have established a secluded > > >> > > sense of trust within the confines of the community but the > presence > > >> > > of the gates themselves indicate the distrust of all that lies > beyond > > >> > > the perimeter. Fear has grown over the past several years with > the > > >> > > ever growing terrorist threat. Neighbors are increasingly looking > at > > >> > > others around them as potential threats as homeland security > pushes to > > >> > > expose homegrown terror. The economic landslide, post the > subprime > > >> > > mortgage scenario, is a wake up call for many who never thought > they > > >> > > had anything to fear; losing home, job and a good life is a > reality. > > >> > > Meanwhile millions of illegal immigrants continue to leach off the > > >> > > public coffers further depleting the resources that once sustained > the > > >> > > country. George Bernard Shaw “You see things; and you say, > ‘Why?’ > > >> > > But I dream things that never were; and I say, “Why not?". This > in > > >> > > all reality can change things but I'm not sure that people are > still > > >> > > capable of dreaming and bringing those dreams to fruition. We > have > > >> > > become sullen and morose and complacently waiting for things to > change > > >> > > on their own or trusting others to make the changes. Soap box > > >> > > politicians are still leading us down the path of delusion without > any > > >> > > real change and we are stuck in a quagmire of stagnation politics. > > >> > > The whole of it needs revamping as is the case with any > revolution. > > >> > > Governments wield the power to make real change but have only > indulged > > >> > > those in the world of high finance and capitalist gain; I think > > >> > > capitalism breeds fear. From Pat in another thread: > ".........there's > > >> > > a moral wealth > > >> > > that is completely ignored by the ruthlessness of applied > capitalism. > > >> > > Capitalism divides society into 2 parts: the rich and the poor. > > >> > > Socialism, to some extent, tries to redress the balance and bring > that > > >> > > excess 'wealth' back into a useful form for society's poor. If > > >> > > America doesn't try to protect the well-being of its own poor, > then > > >> > > they will be forced to defend themselves against an enemy > government, > > >> > > and, the Declaration of Independence, whilst NOT the Constitution, > > >> > > still lays down a framework granting justification for such a > self- > > >> > > defence if presented with "...a long chain of abuses and > usurpations > > >> > > pursuing, invariably, the same object, evinces a design to reduce > them > > >> > > under absolute despotism...". > > >> > > As a proponent of capitalism I don't think you would agree with > the > > >> > > premise or the outcome but for sure it is or should be considered > as > > >> > > one element underlying the climate of global fear. > > > > >> > > On Aug 8, 2:01 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Sure, times are tough for the average person but that’s no > reason to > > >> > > > get nasty about it. I know it’s legend that people used to be > much > > >> > > > nicer to each other but I’ve no idea if that legend has any > validity > > >> > > > or basis in reality. > > > > >> > > > I can believe that rural folks were much nicer to each other and > > >> more > > >> > > > concerned with each others welfare. But the country was much > bigger > > >> > > > and our population much smaller back then. That lack of > crowding > > >> led > > >> > > > to conditions that made people behave better toward each other > (with > > >> > > > some exceptions as we shall see.) > > > > >> > > > Back in that day, people in a rural community also had the same > > >> > > > background, heritage, religion and values, which lent to a > common > > >> > > > concern for each other. Today most communities, even some of > the > > >> more > > >> > > > rural ones, are a homogeneous mix of race, culture, religion and > > >> > > > values, all of which tend to make people a bit more wary of each > > >> > > > other. Or at best it makes them distant from oneself. Makes > one > > >> more > > >> > > > stand-offish. > > > > >> > > > If there is one significant characteristic all species seem to > share > > >> > > > it is a general xenophobia – a fear of anything unknown or new, > a > > >> fear > > >> > > > of strangers. Many blame it on being driven from heaven but > > >> > > > regardless it’s source, as we have with so many of nature’s > built-in > > >> > > > protections, our species has taken xenophobia to heretofore > > >> undreamed > > >> > > > levels. We even create things to fear – vampires, ghouls and > such. > > >> > > > And there are far too many of us even to afraid to look > themselves > > >> in > > >> > > > the eye in a mirror. It took me till I was in my late thirties > and > > >> > > > had some therapy under my belt to accomplish that little feat. > > > > >> > > > I can believe some of the legend of nice people because I can > recall > > >> > > > times when I would be overcome with an urge to perform some > > >> > > > spontaneous act of kindness and the response was generally > thanks > > >> and > > >> > > > gratitude or at the very least a smile and a nod. Today when I > try > > >> a > > >> > > > gratuitous kindness I am too often looked at with suspicion – as > > >> > > > though I had some hidden agenda. I don’t do it very often > anymore. > > >> > > > I’m no hero. > > > > >> > > > Our politics these days seems to run more on hate than I can > > >> remember > > >> > > > in seventy years of the stuff even though I only paid attention > for > > >> > > > the last two decades. Sure, politics is the arena most likely > to > > >> > > > evoke emotional reactions but anymore it seems like those > emotions > > >> > > > boil over into a darker place in us. One that removes all trace > of > > >> > > > concern for each other and replaces it with aggression, fear, > lies > > >> and > > >> > > > hatred. > > > > >> > > > Yet these facets of human behavior are not too hard to > understand. > > >> > > > After all we’ve come from a very frightening past and certainly > > >> still > > >> > > > carry a lot of those fears with us. But there is a new > dimension to > > >> > > > our xenophobia, a new level we’ve taken it to that is beyond > > >> anything > > >> > > > rationally acceptable as a survival instinct. In spite of > commonly > > >> > > > available knowledge we fear differences in each other that we > know > > >> (or > > >> > > > should know) are false. > > > > >> > > > But to borrow a Gumpism, fear is as fear does and most > frequently it > > >> > > > is fear itself which drives itself to higher levels of > intensity. > > >> > > > Remember Roosevelt’s admonishment? “We have nothing to fear but > > >> fear > > >> > > > itself.” I don’t think many realized the eternalness of that > truth. > > > > >> > > > Lies are virtually always rooted in fear which accounts for the > > >> > > > overwhelming number of them being floated about these days. > Fear of > > >> > > > not appearing a certain way, fear of not being what we think we > > >> should > > >> > > > be, fear of accepting responsibility, fear of the consequences > of > > >> both > > >> > > > acting and inaction. Fear drives most of Madison Avenue’s best > > >> > > > creations: Fear that you smell, that you don’t look good, that > your > > >> > > > teeth are not white enough, that your skin’s not smooth and > blemish > > >> > > > free, that your medical condition needs a cover up, that you > need > > >> the > > >> > > > newer drug, that your children are too fat, too thin, too > disturbed, > > >> > > > too talkative, too … anything. Superficial fears all. > > > > >> > > > A new aspect to commercials I’ve noticed is the disdain they > show > > >> for > > >> > > > civil behavior: the shopper who leaves her no longer wanted pain > > >> > > > killers in the basket in the aisle, the man who treats children > > >> > > > cruelly and dishonestly, the executive with not enough sense to > know > > >> > > > that if he fell on the lizard it would crush their main > advertising > > >> > > > gimmick. The list goes on. Any fool can pick out the > commercials > > >> > > > that are destructive to society and civilization: virtually all > of > > >> > > > them. There are few commercials that are constructive and > honest > > >> and > > >> > > > fewer yet that are even creative and entertaining. > > > > >> > > > Right now the two biggest fears clutching our hearts are jobs > and > > >> the > > > > ... > > > > read more »
