"... On Aug 26, 11:12 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
wrote: ..."

> Gruff, excellent dance around my questions and point! Very artful!

While I preen at your comment about my artfulness, my dance was not
deliberate.

> But I won’t let you get away with it so easily.

Now there's the Orn I know and love.

> First, to be clear, I agree with you overall in your opinion about the
> apparent non-validity of such attitudes as hope for salvation from sin
> etc. So, no need to avoid the reality that there do exist an
> inordinate number of people who DO hold such beliefs, be they rational
> (which would be the way of knowledge, which it isn’t) or not. Just
> because one doesn’t agree with how some group thinks, believes,
> practices etc., to ignore the FACT that so many people DO exist like
> that seems to reject that aspect of reality.

I don't think I was implying that I ignore any aspect of human
behavior.  I agree that a vast majority of our species believe in the
'book' as you say and while I may become irritated with them at times,
I certainly don't ignore them, nor do I discount them in the grand
scheme of things.

Even misguided thoughts and beliefs have an impact on society as a
whole, especially when they are in such a majority.  There are far
more individuals who believe in religion -- religion of all kinds --
than there are who believe there are no such things as gods.

> Or, perhaps I’m missing something here. Is it your claim that if
> someone doesn’t think/believe the way you do they don’t exist?

I'm somewhat puzzled how you came to that potential conclusion.  I
don't think I've ever expressed such a thought.

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