Maybe I'm just a text snob, but playing around on the web is usually too
distracting for my little pieces of time. I find you all very
interesting too, thanks!
On 1/16/2011 4:35 AM, iam deheretic wrote:
I know what you mean Gabby I think a lot of the people went to the
other thing.. was interesting but to confusing to my simple mind..
You are very much part of the group.. and a lot of members have become
lurkers..
Allan
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:32 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thank you very much, Ash, for keeping the "Minds Eye" idea alive. For
writing into the almost empty memory store. Goes for all participants
here, of course. Sorry to interrupt. Lee/ Allan/ others, your replies.
On 16 Jan., 06:17, Ash <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> On 1/14/2011 2:09 AM, iam deheretic wrote:
>
> > Interesting question Lee
>
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:41 AM, [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
> > Hey Allan,
>
> > But when you die a natural death do you not also deprive
the world of
> > your gifts?
>
> > My personal opinion, I think this world is kind of a trial
period in
> > which we respond to the situations that surround us. The
object of
> > life is find and get to know the Father Creator and the situations
> > that occur in our life bring us to the awareness of his
existence. To
> > me that is the most important thing in life. Then life becomes a
> > celebration (including the difficult times) which is shared with
> > others,,so they too can find and get to know the Father Creator.
> > To commit suicide is a very egoistic thing in a lot of cases
and when
> > one suddenly realizes there is a God.. then you have a
problem and I
> > think in most cases they turn into their ego and are of little
value
> > to the rest of life. Now there are some cases where medically
> > prolonging life is just as wrong.
> > This probably makes no sense.
> > Allan
>
> It makes a lot of sense, being invested in something greater than
> oneself (or immediate desires/challenges) can tap into a limitless
> potential for overcoming. I've heard of people coming to very deep
> insights into the meaning of things and ability to control how they
> 'see' their pain in extreme circumstances.
>
> "But when you die a natural death do you not also deprive the
world of
> your gifts?"
>
> I've been thinking in terms of waste, all else aside it would be a
> greater waste to forego potential growth and deprive both
oneself and
> community of the fruits of it.
>
> "To commit suicide is a very egoistic thing in a lot of cases
and when
> one suddenly realizes there is a God.. then you have a problem "
>
> -and in the cases where it is not an egoistic thing you realize
there is
> no God? Just kidding!
>
> For me God was a big problem in my youth, it was not until I
discarded
> my conditioned alignments (full apostasy took some time) and
studied a
> lot about anthropology, metaphysics and philosophy that the concept
> became what it should have been when I needed it then- inspiring of
> hope. Trying to believe can be hell, but I think the brain is
wired to
> desire or believe good things so it probably works for 9/10. The
1/10, I
> guess are rotten apples. Not to identify you as either one Allan I
> wouldn't presume what/where your beliefs come from. However, I don't
> think the God I'd invent (which I believe we have the full right
to do)
> would have much problem with it. It does seem funny to me that some
> think we have free will to decide whether to burn in hell
forever if we
> can't endure torment or torturous circumstances, just funny. It
starts
> sounding like the Jinh, or some who swear the oath not to lie,
mostly
> technicalities as one could get someone else to do it for them-
perhaps
> one could even die well in that case. Hope your Father Creator isn't
> like that, that would frankly suck IMO.
>
> Is the 'Father Creator' from a formal belief system, which one
if so?
>
> ps. the ratios were pulled out of thin air ;-)
>
> > On Jan 12, 7:27 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> > > Pol. I think that is only an illusion. What happens if death is
> > not as it
> > > is often presented but rather are resurrection it a totally
> > different life
> > > determined by how you responded to this life. and there are
> > some natural
> > > laws that apply whether you admit to them or not. and
everyone is
> > > accountable. Also when you commit suicide you deprive the world
> > of your
> > > gifts. Like all concepts there are exceptions and those are
> > dealt with on a
> > > case by case basis. As a whole I would not count on being the
> > exemption.
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:06 AM, pol.science kid
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>wrote:
>
> > > > i think the decision to not live is an active decision..i
> > think it is the
> > > > only decision you do make...a free decision..a rebellion...its
> > you..
>
> > > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
> > > >> When a man is under depression he tries to escape pain by
> > committing
> > > >> suicide , but does he really escape pain? No he increases it
> > hundredfold.
> > > >> The pain and sorrow that his family and friends feel at his
> > demise is
> > > >> actually a pain that is experienced by that individual.
> > Escapism is no
> > > >> remedy , the only way is to struggle and bear through all
> > hardships. To
> > > >> fight throughout is the only way and as death will eventually
> > come, why
> > > >> prepone it.
>
> > > > --
> > > > \--/ Peace
>
> > > --
> > > (
> > > )
> > > I_D Allan
>
> > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > --
> > (
> > )
> > I_D Allan
>
> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
--
(
)
I_D Allan
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
