For those to whom the idea of death is fearful it is death to them , but those who recognising the inevitability of death and being unattached to the various bonds of life see that they will merge into the One God , attain to the supreme bliss that is Brahman.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:36 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm I have read part of it . some what interesting and if you have nothing > else it could be totally fascinating I like work but it means little and I > can often times see the purpose, reading what you say work without > attachment. you make it sound difficult really is it as you want it to be > ,, sounds more like an self fulfilling prophecy personally I like work > simply because I enjoy working > > Yes you often reiterate old teachers , but does that mean you understand > what they are actually saying? > > RP the purpose and function is to get to know God and that applies to every > one, is it going to happen? The entirety of your being both body and soul is > totally contained with in God (no matter what name you want to call him.) > the other is to do his will for you and for each person it is different. By > responding to the world around you in reality you are responding to God the > creator.These request of God are often times very quiet and subtle.If you > don't respond well then you just simple don't. > > You tell me RP to open my eyes and accept the certainty of death and > salvation. Do you even know what death is and what salvation is? > Allan > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> When a person loses wealth or name he becomes depressed whereas a >> person who has attained to the calm of self-mastery remains cool and >> composed as he has ever a spirit of detachment from all worldly >> things. But that doesn't mean that he becomes a zombie as he acts and >> behaves normally , doing all necessary work and making efforts without >> the attachment associated with such work. This view has been put forth >> by many great teachers and I am only reiterating it --- read the >> bhagwadgita and you may find something of what I am saying clearly >> enunciated there. People go in search of the elusive self as if it >> were somewhere underneath wraps , whereas the truth is it is right >> there before you and you fail to see it. >> The Self is that Nothing of which scientist speak from which the >> universe has emanated and to which it will go---and if you think that >> you will be able to grasp it within your hand , you have lot to learn. >> You ask me to learn but all that you speak of has been gathering dust >> in books and folklore , why don't you just open your eyes and accept >> the certainty of death and salvation. >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hope I don't get in the way here RP but I was waiting for Allan before >> > butting in. At first I found this troubling and not purely on the basis >> > of >> > Individuality, but that there is a separation between things such that >> > we >> > are striving for our own nullification in a process of spiritual >> > division >> > then multiplication, while at the same time we are speaking of an >> > eternal >> > and infinite wellspring. It may be that this is the greatest height that >> > any >> > teacher will speak of or has attained and it may indeed be The truth, >> > however it may also be a misleading truth if we accept it as the only >> > destination. The definition of self-realization may also be a >> > half-truth, >> > depending on how you define self-mastery. If realization is a mere >> > perceptual trick in the grand scheme compared to God, it is just one >> > step of >> > the ladder, of which there may be an infinite supply (and all of that >> > may >> > fall within another mastery). >> > >> > I would much prefer to walk my path for a very long time, wherever it >> > may >> > lead, through samsara or hell and put a foot in many dimensions of >> > existence, merely to explore and discover. Heaven and hell I'd flip >> > upside >> > down and leave no stone unturned to see where and what we are and what >> > possibilities may be. Noone can say where that would take us, or what we >> > could become. Until then we do need pieces of insight, I suppose even if >> > they come in the form of neti neti, many disciplines and many arts so >> > long >> > as we don't lose the urge or spirit that led us to make them- tools >> > handed >> > down for us to build on. >> > >> > I hope this was along a constructive path for thoughts, could you offer >> > more >> > insight into how far self-mastery can go in your belief? >> > >> > On 1/23/2011 1:16 PM, iam deheretic wrote: >> > >> > RP by my experience you have a lot to learn >> > But your mind is closed and you know it all , sadly when people set the >> > conditions for something they can never exceed them because they have >> > set >> > the only conditions they have set. sadder still it becomes a self >> > fulfilling prophecy . >> > Allan >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> The nearest a person can get to a state of Self-realization while >> >> still in this body is to attain to the calm of self-mastery , that is >> >> , to remain cool and self-composed in all favourable and adverse >> >> circumstances ----- to live and act with a spirit of detachment while >> >> doing all works to the best of one's ability. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to >> >> > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but possible. >> >> > >> >> > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; some are >> >> >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others >> >> >> despicable; >> >> >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made from >> >> >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and find >> >> >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but never >> >> >> experienced while in this body. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan >> > >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > >
