will freedom of will beovercoming the impulse and making a decision otherwise..or will it following your instinct against your reason.....why does one need freedom.....
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:01 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > My nature consists of the forces within me which bind my freedom of > will. In that context it can be said that your nature is separate from > you. > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:32 PM, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: > > And you and your nature is seperate? > > > > > > > > On Feb 27, 3:20 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Whether you adapt or you revolt , in either case it is not you but > >> your nature which makes the choice. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:06 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Adaption may be phoney/false in order to survive/prosper/get along. > >> > Afterall, a child is controlled in beliefs and behaviors by his > >> > parents. The child cannot even change its name unless it goes to > >> > court- even marriage only changes the last name. (I was named to match > >> > family monograms on linens, silver and as a bone tossed to my father's > >> > ego and my mother's determination to establish a stake in a failing > >> > marriage.) The brain is not mature until the mid-twenties. > >> > >> > We should discuss motive and its role in making choices. Often motive > >> > is not apparent until you are beyond the choice or older and in the > >> > ruminating stage. > >> > >> > Women developed manipulation to an art form. Power is another > >> > important element in choice. > >> > >> > It is human to try various adaptions on for size. I thought of a line > >> > the other day: I tried on sin but found it unbecoming. > >> > >> > Some conditions are beyond human choice and adaption- violent acts of > >> > Nature, war zones, political and social clamps, etc. > >> > >> > If the more capable individual has adapted to baser systems, where's > >> > the courage or intelligence? > >> > >> > On Feb 26, 11:48 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> It is in the nature of an organism to adapt to his environment , > >> >> whether it is conscious or unconscious. The more capable an organism > >> >> the better its coping behaviour and adaptability , that which you > >> >> cannot change you adapt to. > >> > >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:00 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > So is morality/religion a means/tool of adaptation? > >> > >> >> > On Feb 26, 9:17 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> It depends upon man's nature and the opportunities in his > environment > >> >> >> that result in successive environments. > >> > >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 6:36 AM, kenny <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> > "and how shall man hope to see himself as nature made him, > across all > >> >> >> > the changes which the succession of place and time must have > produced > >> >> >> > in his original composition". rousseau > >> > >> >> >> > On Feb 25, 9:32 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> We have choice but it is limited by our motivational forces. We > go to > >> >> >> >> a restaurant and order food by choice but according to our > taste buds > >> >> >> >> or health habits. Our freedom is bound by many factors , some > of which > >> >> >> >> we are not even aware of. The choice is ours and the > responsibility is > >> >> >> >> ours but the motivating force behind the curtain is determined > by our > >> >> >> >> nature. On being confronted by a bully the meek among us act > with > >> >> >> >> timidity but the bold among us act with aggression. Our nature > is > >> >> >> >> determined to a large extent by factors beyond our control , we > are > >> >> >> >> not responsible for our genes or the environment in which we > were born > >> >> >> >> and yet they are responsible for our nature. The desire to > change > >> >> >> >> ourselves , to improve ourselves comes from within us and is > innate in > >> >> >> >> us , what we see as our freedom has causative factors of which > we are > >> >> >> >> not aware. > >> > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:21 PM, pol.science kid < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > I was thinking...it is our ability to make a choice that > makes us > >> >> >> >> > moral beings....but is it necessary that animals dont make a > >> >> >> >> > choice...and do we really make an active choice....and i > would like > >> >> >> >> > someone to talk about responsibility in the same sense...- > Hide quoted text - > >> > >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > -- \--/ Peace
