As I have said so often we are just playing out a script written and
directed by God. And how is that ? We are the slaves of Nature , which
includes our inner nature and the outer nature. We were born with
specific genes which we did not choose and we were born in an
environment which also was not by our choice , and these two resulted
in our personality or nature which is the doer in us. As we grew up we
started choosing our environment according to our capabilities and
interest out of that which was available and that which was available
also was that which the outer nature provided. As for me the physical
and the living environment excluding me is the outer nature. We have
the so-called freedom of choice , but our nature and the alternatives
before us are as provided by Nature. We strive to change ourselves ,
to improve ourselves , but that is a result of a drive which is innate
in us. What I am saying is clear to me but to many it is nonsense and
that is the result of our differing reasoning which is a physical and
an experiential attribute.  What is logical to me is illogical to you
and that is our bondage.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Mardi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 9, 10:13 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There is only one ' will ' and that is of the Creator , what we are
>> all doing is following that ' will '. God has made Nature in such a
>> subtle way that there appear to be so many free individualities but in
>> reality Freedom is just an ' illusion '.
>
> RP, I understand your statement. But how do you understand the
> distinction between the eternal divine spirit (atman) which is one
> with eternal truth and therefore, of course, a pure expression of
> "God's will" and the other "self" which we all experience as ourself
> and which is our active agent in this world of illusion. So let us
> grant that this world is an illusion and our perceived self is an
> illusion. So it doesn't matter if freedom is an illusion - everything
> is an illusion so in this context our illusory self in this illusory
> world we still have illusory freedom of choice!! We don't live in the
> consciousness of the absolute unlimited Reality. We live in this world
> - unless some of us have attained realization!! So we're all playing
> roles. But they are not roles set by God. They are roles that are the
> result of our past choices, actions, and connections. We've created
> these roles for ourselves; and we can choose to change those roles.
> Yes, they are all role-playing, all illusion compared to the ultimate
> Reality. But that's where we all are right now. This is the only
> reality we are able to experience right now - unless, as I said, some
> one of us is Realized already!
>

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