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On Mar 5, 3:44 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > This body is made of the five elements -- fire , air , water , earth , > ether , mind , understanding and self-sense. This is the lower nature > and the higher is Atman , which is unborn , indestructible and > indivisible. Atman is the same in all creatures and is Brahman or > God. When a person dies the elements go to the elements and self-sense > becomes one with Atman. > This is my belief as I don't see the necessity of an after-life when > everything , feeling , thought or action is predetermined. Whatever > good we do in this world should have a humanitarian and compassionate > ground and not a religious one. > I know all this sounds a bit atheistic , but I believe in God and Nature. > > On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:56 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > "...I don't think a child who becomes affected by polio had > > really done anything at that tender age to get such a disability." - > > RP > > > Apparently you do not embrace reincarnation RP. > > > On Mar 4, 5:33 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> There is much to be unhappy about in this world and much to be desired > >> from God , and yet you have to accept your desserts whether you like > >> it or not. I don't think a child who becomes affected by polio had > >> really done anything at that tender age to get such a disability. > > >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:19 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Are savages also the result of the Cosmic Will or is predator/prey > >> > built into human/animal nature by Nature? The cannibals think they are > >> > normal, afterall. :-) > > >> > On Mar 4, 6:33 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> We must keep on searching to find the answers, Rigsy, but the fact > >> >> remains that it is the Cosmic Will which is at work and in an orderly > >> >> manner so that we can discover laws and patterns.' Why' is a big > >> >> question and ultimately Creation itself has no reason except being a > >> >> product of God's Will. > > >> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:48 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > I would like to see you apply this to a soldier who kills and a > >> >> > murderer at large. Society encourages/trains one and incarcerates the > >> >> > other. (One could also compare a elegant swindler and a thief.) > > >> >> > How do you define normal and rational? Who sets the values? > > >> >> > It has been said that one's emotional nature is set at about age seven > >> >> > and the brain by mid-twenties. How does this figure into one's > >> >> > "nature"? > > >> >> > Is a controlled nature authentic or fake? (A deranged addict vs. a > >> >> > calmed highly medicated fuzzy-wuzzy, for instance.) > > >> >> > Is it possible to have several natures within one being- expressed or > >> >> > repressed based on circumstances or opportunities? Is this fraudulent > >> >> > or the human condition/frustration. > > >> >> > What do you think really drives humans leaving out religion and social > >> >> > expectations- power, money or sex? Or is the drive to virtue and > >> >> > excellence intrinsic or learned? Why? > > >> >> > On Mar 3, 8:44 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> A madman is dancing around the streets , his actions and thoughts are > >> >> >> bizarre but whatever he is doing it is with free will. He is given > >> >> >> medicines over a period of time and is not interfered with in any > >> >> >> other manner. Over a period of time his actions and thoughts become > >> >> >> normal , where is your free will , Lee? Actions and thoughts are made > >> >> >> rational with medicines , in other words thoughts and actions can be > >> >> >> controlled with physical or chemical administrations. In other words > >> >> >> the will is not free but controlled from within and outside the > >> >> >> organism , and from within in the sense that your very nature comes > >> >> >> into play. > > >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:43 PM, [email protected] > > >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > Again my friend I agree, man sure does interpret scripturein a > >> >> >> > biased > >> >> >> > manner. > > >> >> >> > Again I don't argue against determinisim, but I question the level > >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> > effect it has on rational, thinking beings, and I alo simply do not > >> >> >> > belive choice within a limitted scope is not free. > > >> >> >> > As I say I may wish to fly unadied by machines, but cannot due to > >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> > confineds of my body, however I can still fly if that is my wish. > >> >> >> > My > >> >> >> > choice may be restricted, but it is still ther for me to make. > > >> >> >> > Choice. > > >> >> >> > We make many choices everyday. Either do A or do not do A. The > >> >> >> > fact > >> >> >> > that my choice is limited to one of these does not negate the fact > >> >> >> > that I can still make that choice. > > >> >> >> > Undoubedlty you may question, what in my past has determined what > >> >> >> > my > >> >> >> > choice may be, unknownst to me, in my subcociouse. I say such a > >> >> >> > belife is grounded in the very act of beliefe itself. > > >> >> >> > Unless one can point to all that you say may determine choice > >> >> >> > then to > >> >> >> > take the stance of determinism based upon this is at best an > >> >> >> > educated > >> >> >> > guess, and at worst unsubstanciated belife. > > >> >> >> > On Mar 3, 4:52 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> Man interprets the Scriptures in a biased manner , but if you look > >> >> >> >> closely and take into account diverse verses you will find that > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> meaning is quite clear. Science is so advanced now that the laws > >> >> >> >> of > >> >> >> >> biology , genetics , psychology etc. give credence to the faith in > >> >> >> >> determinism. You say there are conditions, but I see conditions > >> >> >> >> within > >> >> >> >> conditions. > > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:04 PM, [email protected] > > >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Quite poetic really RP. > > >> >> >> >> > I can't help but wonder how many ways this passage could be > >> >> >> >> > interpreted though. That addition of the word heart makes me > >> >> >> >> > think > >> >> >> >> > automaticly that the power of love can move anything. > > >> >> >> >> > Does this really suggest then God literaly controls us, or > >> >> >> >> > indeed our > >> >> >> >> > movments, or could it perhaps suggest that Gods love moves the > >> >> >> >> > hearts > >> >> >> >> > of man? > > >> >> >> >> > On Mar 3, 3:35 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> I am quoting a verse from the last chapter of the Bhagvadagita > >> >> >> >> >> :- > >> >> >> >> >> The Lord abides in the hearts of all beings , Oh Arjuna , > >> >> >> >> >> causing them > >> >> >> >> >> to move around by His power as if they were mounted on a > >> >> >> >> >> machine. > > >> >> >> >> >> You will find similar verses in other Scriptures as well if > >> >> >> >> >> you take > >> >> >> >> >> the trouble to look. > > >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 7:16 PM, [email protected] > > >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > I think you are correct in some aspects RP. I would call > >> >> >> >> >> > what you > >> >> >> >> >> > call bondage by a differant name. > > >> >> >> >> >> > I would name it condition. If your argument is that ther is > >> >> >> >> >> > no > >> >> >> >> >> > unfettered freedom, that all is dependant on other things > >> >> >> >> >> > then you'll > >> >> >> >> >> > get no argument from me. > > >> >> >> >> >> > Everything is conditional. I might like to fly unaided by > >> >> >> >> >> > mechanics, > >> >> >> >> >> > but I simply cannot. This is a condition of my body, and my > >> >> >> >> >> > species. > > >> >> >> >> >> > Reason, human reason like much else about us is not static, > >> >> >> >> >> > that is to > >> >> >> >> >> > say what resonable conclusions I may have made ten years > >> >> >> >> >> > ago, can be > >> >> >> >> >> > subject to change. > > >> >> >> >> >> > Of course there are also conditions that apply to our > >> >> >> >> >> > reasoning, I may > >> >> >> >> >> > never have a larger than avarage IQ, for example. > > >> >> >> >> >> > On Mar 2, 2:04 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> Lee why do you choose to believe in free will whereas I in > >> >> >> >> >> >> bondage? It > >> >> >> >> >> >> is because our beliefs and reasoning is different. Free > >> >> >> >> >> >> will appears > >> >> >> >> >> >> logical to you whereas to me it does not. Our reasoning is > >> >> >> >> >> >> at > >> >> >> >> >> >> loggerheads because our reasoning faculties and experience > >> >> >> >> >> >> is > >> >> >> >> >> >> different. We are bound by our reason , and this itself is > >> >> >> >> >> >> bondage. > >> >> >> >> >> >> Where is your free choice then? > > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:56 PM, [email protected] > > >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sorry RP I can't get with that at all, as you well know > >> >> >> >> >> >> > by now. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > A persons nature is not static but moves as the person > >> >> >> >> >> >> > does. It is > >> >> >> >> >> >> > possible to shake of the products of an 'early > >> >> >> >> >> >> > envirmonent', hence we > >> >> >> >> >> >> > have so many atheists from religious households. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Do we all act within the scope of Gods will? > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > If this is true then no religous text would contain no > >> >> >> >> >> >> > words of > >> >> >> >> >> >> > punishment for denying Gods will. They do though, it is > >> >> >> >> >> >> > clear then > >> >> >> >> >> >> > that we have a choice to obey or not the will of God. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > There is a > >> >> >> >> >> >> > prayer prevalent in more than one of the worlds religions > >> >> >> >> >> >> > that runs > >> >> >> >> >> >> > basicly 'not my will ohh lord but yours' > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > What is the meaning of this? > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > Does it admit that there is one will and that is Gods, or > >> >> >> >> >> >> > does it beg > >> >> >> >> >> >> > God grant me the strenght to obey not my will but yours? > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > I would obviously plump for the latter. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > What is religious dogma if not a list of things designed > >> >> >> >> >> >> > to get one to > >> >> >> >> >> >> > God? Why the need for it, if all was Gods will anyway? > > >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mar 1, 1:14 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When a person thinks or acts he does so as if he were > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the master of > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> his will but in fact unknown to him various forces > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> within himself are > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> taking him along as a current takes along a boat in > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> turbulent > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
