... speaketh the man who proclaims that ultimately all is one ... Seriously,
orn, has it ever occurred to you that this ultimate could be here and now?


On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:22 AM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Perhaps you could just start your own group...
>
> On Mar 8, 7:39 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I would suggest to expand Ian's posting guidelines and add "no killer
> > phrases allowed" in order to get a decent discussion style going here.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:18 PM, ornamentalmind
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Such a fantasy about 'control mechanisms' is just that...
> >
> > > On Mar 8, 6:06 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Where have the control mechanisms gone that prevent one single loony
> > > > autocrat having his shaky fingers on buttons and triggers? My friend
> says
> > > > it's the boy's mother's fault. She is a girls' mother. I would say
> that
> > > this
> > > > view is too narrow.
> >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:19 PM, ornamentalmind
> > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > gabby 'baby'...when it comes to 'form' your opinion is noted and
> not
> > > > > agreed with at all nor is your 'expertise' found to be of value nor
> > > > > interest.
> >
> > > > > I need no help at all, thank you very much and did think twice
> before
> > > > > putting you on moderation this time.
> >
> > > > > Your incessant badgering has been addressed ad nauseam. Cease and
> > > > > desist.
> >
> > > > > On Mar 8, 2:57 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > No sulking, please, orn. We very much appreciate your expertise,
> only
> > > the
> > > > > > form is sometimes a little inadequate.
> >
> > > > > > So what about BB47's complaint about being moderated? And yes,
> who is
> > > > > > presently in charge of the moderating and deleting spam business?
> Do
> > > you
> > > > > > need help?
> >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:52 AM, ornamentalmind
> > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > I guess this means you won't respond to my questions PSK,
> right?
> >
> > > > > > > On Mar 7, 4:17 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > :)
> >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:39 PM, gabbydott <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Where did Poly ask for your judgement, orny baby? Has the
> mod
> > > god
> > > > > job
> > > > > > > gone
> > > > > > > > > to your head the wrong way up? She asked for opinions. Mind
> the
> > > > > > > difference.
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 12:39 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > >> “i guess ..i meant a secular rather than a religious or
> > > > > theological
> > > > > > > > >> mode of
> > > > > > > > >> understanding things...the world.... “ – PSK
> >
> > > > > > > > >> Well, that does point towards an area of your beliefs so
> > > thanks
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >> this much. Perhaps you could be even more specific?
> >
> > > > > > > > >> As far as I’ve found out…reviewing human thought over the
> > > ages,…
> > > > > > > > >> secular and religious views often are at the very least
> > > > > intertwined.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> On the other hand, perhaps you are being much more literal
> > > when
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > >> use the notion of “…mode of understanding things…”. If
> this is
> > > the
> > > > > > > > >> case, a more specific unpacking of what the two apparently
> (to
> > > > > you)
> > > > > > > > >> different modes would be of value, OK?
> >
> > > > > > > > >> I’ll suspend judgment until I hear more.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> On Mar 7, 3:01 am, "pol.science kid" <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > i guess ..i meant a secular rather than a religious or
> > > > > theological
> > > > > > > mode
> > > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > > >> > understanding things...the world....
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, ornamentalmind
> > > > > > > > >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > “…revolution in knowledge and philosophy…” – PSK ???
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > To continue the discussion, one would need to know
> what
> > > you
> > > > > mean
> > > > > > > here.
> > > > > > > > >> > > Would you unpack it a bit?
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > Before actually knowing what you mean, I see little if
> any
> > > > > > > > >> > > ‘revolution’ in this context. Yes, there is a process
> of
> > > > > change in
> > > > > > > > >> > > thought over the millennia yet such general ‘change’
> > > doesn’t
> > > > > mean
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >> > > progression towards a more accurate view. Case in
> point –
> > > you
> > > > > are
> > > > > > > > >> > > apparently using the dialectical view of one view
> being in
> > > > > > > > >> > > contradiction with another. While many do apprehend in
> > > this
> > > > > way,
> > > > > > > in no
> > > > > > > > >> > > way is that an indicator of the accuracy of such a
> view.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > As best as I can see, both can be known
> consubstantially.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > On Mar 7, 2:25 am, "pol.science kid" <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > I was thinking .... i agree with what yuo guys say
> > > ....could
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > >> be
> > > > > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > revolution in knowledge and philosophy...when it was
> > > > > > > > >> questioned....what
> > > > > > > > >> > > > can an INdividual know.....it kind of pitts one
> against
> > > the
> > > > > > > whole in
> > > > > > > > >> this
> > > > > > > > >> > > > struggle to know...or salvation through
> knowledge...what
> > > > > say....
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, pol.science kid <
> > > > > > > > >> [email protected]
> > > > > > > > >> > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > True we have come a long way..and the word has
> been
> > > taken
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > granted....but i would like an opinion of each one
> of
> > > you
> > > > > > > ...on
> > > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Sanctity of Freedom.... it is also my casual
> inference
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > that....individuality ...the  modern obsession
> with
> > > > > it....how
> > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > some primitive tribes...hold the community at a
> level
> > > > > above
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > individual....while it is not quite so in our
> > > > > > > 'modernised'...or
> > > > > > > > >> rather
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > westernised world.....are there concepts of
> > > radicalised
> > > > > > > > >> individuality
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > in the oriental philosophy..... need your
> opoinions
> > > > > fellows
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > --
> > > > > > > > >> > > > \--/ Peace
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > > > >> > \--/ Peace
> >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > \--/ Peace
>

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