As you say....the modes are both only different methods of percieving
perhaps....what i want to know orn...is when does an individual feel
empowered....an individual...a will...an active will....what attributes to
it...what conditions...is it more likely in a certain setting.....i hope i
make sense

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]>wrote:

> “i guess ..i meant a secular rather than a religious or theological
> mode of
> understanding things...the world.... “ – PSK
>
> Well, that does point towards an area of your beliefs so thanks for
> this much. Perhaps you could be even more specific?
>
> As far as I’ve found out…reviewing human thought over the ages,…
> secular and religious views often are at the very least intertwined.
>
> On the other hand, perhaps you are being much more literal when you
> use the notion of “…mode of understanding things…”. If this is the
> case, a more specific unpacking of what the two apparently (to you)
> different modes would be of value, OK?
>
> I’ll suspend judgment until I hear more.
>
>
> On Mar 7, 3:01 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > i guess ..i meant a secular rather than a religious or theological mode
> of
> > understanding things...the world....
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:21 PM, ornamentalmind
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>  >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > “…revolution in knowledge and philosophy…” – PSK ???
> >
> > > To continue the discussion, one would need to know what you mean here.
> > > Would you unpack it a bit?
> >
> > > Before actually knowing what you mean, I see little if any
> > > ‘revolution’ in this context. Yes, there is a process of change in
> > > thought over the millennia yet such general ‘change’ doesn’t mean a
> > > progression towards a more accurate view. Case in point – you are
> > > apparently using the dialectical view of one view being in
> > > contradiction with another. While many do apprehend in this way, in no
> > > way is that an indicator of the accuracy of such a view.
> >
> > > As best as I can see, both can be known consubstantially.
> >
> > > On Mar 7, 2:25 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > I was thinking .... i agree with what yuo guys say ....could it also
> be
> > > the
> > > > revolution in knowledge and philosophy...when it was
> questioned....what
> > > > can an INdividual know.....it kind of pitts one against the whole in
> this
> > > > struggle to know...or salvation through knowledge...what say....
> >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:01 PM, pol.science kid <
> [email protected]
> > > >wrote:
> >
> > > > > True we have come a long way..and the word has been taken for
> > > > > granted....but i would like an opinion of each one of you ...on the
> > > > > Sanctity of Freedom.... it is also my casual inference
> > > > > that....individuality ...the  modern obsession with it....how come
> > > > > some primitive tribes...hold the community at a level above the
> > > > > individual....while it is not quite so in our 'modernised'...or
> rather
> > > > > westernised world.....are there concepts of radicalised
> individuality
> > > > > in the oriental philosophy..... need your opoinions fellows
> >
> > > > --
> > > > \--/ Peace
> >
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