I have the same problem. I have a feeling that what is good for
maintaining as much diversity in nature is important to all living
things. That is why I use terms such as 'Good for nature' in which I
assume that good for society and individuals is, likewise, embedded.

But now I feel that I am moving away from the main point of the
discussion and with my atrocious short term memory I don't know which
discussion I am in!!!!

I'm having fun though.

Makc

On Apr 10, 12:41 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:38 PM, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Yes the atheist has made the same leap of faith that the theist has
> > made and only the agnostic is protecting his views with rational
> > argument.
>
> > I suppose that the choice between theism and atheism will always be a
> > leap of faith. For me it is just a matter of what seems most credible
> > but could change.
>
> > The important question, I suppose, is whether or not, theism is, on
> > balance good for nature or not.
>
> I would say that nature probably doesn't care. The real impact is on society
> and the individual.
>
> With individuals I think it depends on the person. Some people just need to
> feel like their belief systems are on a solid foundation irregardless of the
> fact that there is rot in the core - namely a flawed rationale.
>
> Some just can't accept that life is exactly what it appears to be and so
> ignore the shaky underpinnings of their beliefs in the hope that if they
> keep their eyes closed it makes the end of their existence unreal. Others
> reject the possibility of continued existence after death for fear of
> retribution by a vengeful god. The reasons for theism and atheism are many
> and varied.
>
> My point is that to consider the good and bad of theism and atheism you have
> to consider their reasons and the impact that they have on the individual
> and society in general.
>
> I would say that for some individuals a belief system that supports their
> needs is a good thing regardless of the rationale that it is built on. It
> gives meaning to their lives and provides a crutch for them to lean on.
>
> Often I wish I could lean on beliefs like that. I personally struggle
> through life trying to find purpose were there is none. For me there is no
> purpose in life other than the urge to spawn. That's a pretty depressing
> thought but unfortunately, I'm just not capable of viewing the universe any
> other way.

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