What not even subjective substantiation? Thats a strange line to take and I belive that you do not actually belive it yourself.
Put it this way, you do I assume hold to political party/system A being better than political party/system B? The truth is that there is just no objective reason to belive in either A or B, but each of (who are interested in politics) belives so and with a passion. This belife is subjectivly substantiated in our minds using what ever evidance we have gleaned. Can you then really not see that the same is true for belief in a creative diety? We all belive some things, every single human does, and we do so for some of them bassed souly on subjective 'evidance'. If a man reports to belve in God because I have communed with God, you might not belive that he has done so, but if he belives he has done so then that has substancied, subjectivly his belife in God. On Apr 9, 10:52 am, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote: > On Apr 9, 2:22 pm, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 5:18 am, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I do not believe that a supreme being created the universe etc. > > > The term 'supreme being' is kinda tricky. If supreme is interpreted as > > all powerful then yes, I agree. > > > I believe that it's possible a superior entity (be that a single > > organism or an advanced society) might have created the universe using > > technology millions or possibly billions of years beyond our own. > > > > This week A C Grayling brought out his book "The > > > Good Book - A secular bible". > > > In interview he stated that theism is harmful to > > > individuals and society. > > > The term theism as used here is too generic. I've seen some religious > > organizations that I believe were truly interested in helping > > individuals and society. OTOH, I doubt many people would consider Jim > > Jones and his cult to be a good thing. > > > Personally, I think that all worldviews should be based in a rational > > belief system. It's fine to believe in a god as long as you have a > > logical rationalization for your belief. > > > Unfortunately for many people the need to believe in an afterlife > > outweighs rational thought. > > > > I would like to hear his argument on this matter. > > > Why he thinks that theism is harmful. > > > If he is indeed correct then there is an argument > > > for the active promotion of atheism. > > > What say you? > > > IMO atheism is just as wrong as theism. It is an unsubstantiated > > belief in the absence of a god. > > I cannot sustantiate that there is no yeti or bigfoot. Nor can anyone > can substantiate anything that is based on inductive reasoning. > > I do not think that either a 'belief in atheism' or a 'belief in > theism' is wrong. > > However that the existence of God has been substantiated is very > difficult for me to accept.. > > > > > > > If you look at the way the universe is put together I'd say that there > > were some valid reasons to infer the possibility of intelligent > > design.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
