I'm confused here. I'm not seeing any direct reference to my reply. Was this post directed at me or someone else?
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:40 AM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > What not even subjective substantiation? > > Thats a strange line to take and I belive that you do not actually > belive it yourself. > > Put it this way, you do I assume hold to political party/system A > being better than political party/system B? > > The truth is that there is just no objective reason to belive in > either A or B, but each of (who are interested in politics) belives so > and with a passion. > > This belife is subjectivly substantiated in our minds using what ever > evidance we have gleaned. > > Can you then really not see that the same is true for belief in a > creative diety? > > We all belive some things, every single human does, and we do so for > some of them bassed souly on subjective 'evidance'. If a man reports > to belve in God because I have communed with God, you might not belive > that he has done so, but if he belives he has done so then that has > substancied, subjectivly his belife in God. > > > > On Apr 9, 10:52 am, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2:22 pm, Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 7, 5:18 am, malcymo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I do not believe that a supreme being created the universe etc. > > > > > The term 'supreme being' is kinda tricky. If supreme is interpreted as > > > all powerful then yes, I agree. > > > > > I believe that it's possible a superior entity (be that a single > > > organism or an advanced society) might have created the universe using > > > technology millions or possibly billions of years beyond our own. > > > > > > This week A C Grayling brought out his book "The > > > > Good Book - A secular bible". > > > > In interview he stated that theism is harmful to > > > > individuals and society. > > > > > The term theism as used here is too generic. I've seen some religious > > > organizations that I believe were truly interested in helping > > > individuals and society. OTOH, I doubt many people would consider Jim > > > Jones and his cult to be a good thing. > > > > > Personally, I think that all worldviews should be based in a rational > > > belief system. It's fine to believe in a god as long as you have a > > > logical rationalization for your belief. > > > > > Unfortunately for many people the need to believe in an afterlife > > > outweighs rational thought. > > > > > > I would like to hear his argument on this matter. > > > > Why he thinks that theism is harmful. > > > > If he is indeed correct then there is an argument > > > > for the active promotion of atheism. > > > > What say you? > > > > > IMO atheism is just as wrong as theism. It is an unsubstantiated > > > belief in the absence of a god. > > > > I cannot sustantiate that there is no yeti or bigfoot. Nor can anyone > > can substantiate anything that is based on inductive reasoning. > > > > I do not think that either a 'belief in atheism' or a 'belief in > > theism' is wrong. > > > > However that the existence of God has been substantiated is very > > difficult for me to accept.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you look at the way the universe is put together I'd say that there > > > were some valid reasons to infer the possibility of intelligent > > > design.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - >
