RP, I couldn't tell, was that a 'yes' or a 'no'?
On Apr 28, 9:55 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I am an emanation of God and hence God is conscious in me , thinks in > me and feels and acts in me. But I am just one emanation , God sees , > feels thinks and acts in all as all are emanations of God. I a petty > emanation of God turn to the Father from whom the whole creation has > emanated and ask Him to cast His benign eye upon me as I just a small > part of God cannot think of myself to be God but his fragment. A > finger of my hand will just remain a finger and not be myself. Even > the whole Creation is just an emanation of God and cannot be called > God as He is the source of all and the rays of the sun cannot be > called the sun. > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:35 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > RP, thanks again for responding. > > > I'll assume that you don't believe that god thinks conceptually the > > way humans do, correct?...no thinking using words either, right? > > > On Apr 22, 7:07 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> God is aware in the sense that He is all or all emanates from Him and > >> thus automatically He knows everything and doesn't have to be aware of > >> things like us mortals. In my opinion , we should not conceive of Him > >> to be conscious in the way that we are because our consciousness > >> entails duality or is encompassed within borders. He is conscious in > >> us , acts in us but in His separate state He is oblivious of all as He > >> alone is and creation being changeable and subject to birth and death > >> is just an illusion. In my view that which is not permanent can be > >> called an illusion. > > >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, ornamentalmind > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > RP, are you suggesting that god is not conscious at all?...that all > >> > god is/does etc. is unconscious? > > >> > In either case, are you using one of the more common notions of what > >> > conscious means…like being self aware and knowing what one is doing? > > >> > On Apr 22, 1:45 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> In my view , creation was not a conscious act of God , but rather the > >> >> universe emanated from the unconscious mind of God. He doesn't look at > >> >> us consciously , doesn't connect results with actions , rather > >> >> everything is happening according to laws which exist in His > >> >> unconscious mind. I don't think that any scripture can really lay down > >> >> definitions of good and bad with His authority , rather thinkers among > >> >> us can lay down rules which appear logical to them and accepted by us > >> >> as such. I don't believe in an after-life and consider this life > >> >> itself to be a spiritual experience. > > >> >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Chuck Bowling > > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:55 AM, [email protected] > >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> >> Hey Chuck, > > >> >> >> I guess it depends on what you belive God is. > > >> >> >> If you believe that God is the creator then everything has Gods hand > >> >> >> in it, if you further belive that God is omipitant then God you are > >> >> >> exactly the way that God has designed you to be. > > >> >> > I believe that god/goddess/gods etc. are icons. They are concepts > >> >> > that help > >> >> > people cope with their own frailties and inadequacies. Whether it be > >> >> > to > >> >> > blame bad things on, attribute good things to, or to provide us a > >> >> > path to > >> >> > continue our existence beyond the grave. > > >> >> >> If you are a gardner, and you splice together two differant plants to > >> >> >> gain a desird result, the plant does have a life of it's own, but > >> >> >> works in the way you have designd it to. So in a real way you are > >> >> >> the > >> >> >> manipulator of that plants life, your hand is in all that it does, as > >> >> >> you have designed it. > > >> >> > Here I would say that the original design was altered. A much easier > >> >> > task > >> >> > than the original design. > > >> >> > As I may have mentioned in a previous post, I readily accept the > >> >> > possibility > >> >> > that some entity may have created this universe. And, I think that > >> >> > anything > >> >> > with that kind of power would probably appear to be omniscient to us. > >> >> > However, I also believe that it is VERY unlikely that any entity that > >> >> > could > >> >> > have created this reality would bare even the slightest resemblance to > >> >> > anything we describe as a god. > > >> >> > The reasoning for that seems fairly straightforward to me: > > >> >> > Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame. I mean > >> >> > come > >> >> > on. You want me to kill a goat, sacrifice a virgin, or set fire to a > >> >> > wax > >> >> > stick in your honor. REALLY??? And you're going to send me to hell for > >> >> > eternity because I thought the neighbor's wife was a hot piece of > >> >> > tail? > >> >> > Jeesh. As gods go you suck dude. > > >> >> > Another thing. You would think that god would find a better way of > >> >> > correcting bad behavior than to fry people for an eternity. Even we > >> >> > lowly > >> >> > humans know that setting someone on fire is not the best way to > >> >> > convince 'em > >> >> > to mend their ways. > > >> >> > Lastly but not finally. If god created this reality then at a minimum > >> >> > he > >> >> > created one and possibly infinitely more universes. In this one there > >> >> > are an > >> >> > estimated 300 sextillion stars. That's > >> >> > 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars > >> >> > if you're looking for precision. You would think that with all that > >> >> > stuff > >> >> > floating around out there that he/she/it would have better things to > >> >> > do than > >> >> > make sure that little johnnies prayers are answered with a brand new > >> >> > bike on > >> >> > his birthday. > > >> >> > My guess is that any entity capable of creating all of this would see > >> >> > us as > >> >> > a minor infestation of germs at best. > > >> >> >> On Apr 20, 5:40 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > > Whatever work I do and the effort that I make , is it God doing > >> >> >> > > it ? > >> >> >> > > No , I do it all , but It is God who gives me the strength to do > >> >> >> > > it. > >> >> >> > > Without His strength even the resolve to do anything wouldn't > >> >> >> > > come to > >> >> >> > > my mind. > > >> >> >> > Now when you say that God is giving you strength can you be more > >> >> >> > specific? > >> >> >> > Is he providing your mitochondria with more ADP or is he upping > >> >> >> > your > >> >> >> > serotonin or dopamine levels to give you a greater feeling of > >> >> >> > reward for > >> >> >> > your accomplishments? > > >> >> >> > And, if so, can you tell me exactly how he does that? I mean, is he > >> >> >> > causing > >> >> >> > re-uptake inhibition or is he actually producing a greater volume > >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> > chemical messengers at the synapse? > > >> >> >> > I guess if it's psychological strength it would have to be the > >> >> >> > latter. > >> >> >> > If it > >> >> >> > were greater physical strength then you'd probably be able to lift > >> >> >> > cars > >> >> >> > off > >> >> >> > the ground.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -
