Orn , that's a yes.
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:35 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > RP, I couldn't tell, was that a 'yes' or a 'no'? > > On Apr 28, 9:55 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> I am an emanation of God and hence God is conscious in me , thinks in >> me and feels and acts in me. But I am just one emanation , God sees , >> feels thinks and acts in all as all are emanations of God. I a petty >> emanation of God turn to the Father from whom the whole creation has >> emanated and ask Him to cast His benign eye upon me as I just a small >> part of God cannot think of myself to be God but his fragment. A >> finger of my hand will just remain a finger and not be myself. Even >> the whole Creation is just an emanation of God and cannot be called >> God as He is the source of all and the rays of the sun cannot be >> called the sun. >> >> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:35 AM, ornamentalmind >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > RP, thanks again for responding. >> >> > I'll assume that you don't believe that god thinks conceptually the >> > way humans do, correct?...no thinking using words either, right? >> >> > On Apr 22, 7:07 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> God is aware in the sense that He is all or all emanates from Him and >> >> thus automatically He knows everything and doesn't have to be aware of >> >> things like us mortals. In my opinion , we should not conceive of Him >> >> to be conscious in the way that we are because our consciousness >> >> entails duality or is encompassed within borders. He is conscious in >> >> us , acts in us but in His separate state He is oblivious of all as He >> >> alone is and creation being changeable and subject to birth and death >> >> is just an illusion. In my view that which is not permanent can be >> >> called an illusion. >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:53 PM, ornamentalmind >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > RP, are you suggesting that god is not conscious at all?...that all >> >> > god is/does etc. is unconscious? >> >> >> > In either case, are you using one of the more common notions of what >> >> > conscious means…like being self aware and knowing what one is doing? >> >> >> > On Apr 22, 1:45 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> In my view , creation was not a conscious act of God , but rather the >> >> >> universe emanated from the unconscious mind of God. He doesn't look at >> >> >> us consciously , doesn't connect results with actions , rather >> >> >> everything is happening according to laws which exist in His >> >> >> unconscious mind. I don't think that any scripture can really lay down >> >> >> definitions of good and bad with His authority , rather thinkers among >> >> >> us can lay down rules which appear logical to them and accepted by us >> >> >> as such. I don't believe in an after-life and consider this life >> >> >> itself to be a spiritual experience. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Chuck Bowling >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:55 AM, [email protected] >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hey Chuck, >> >> >> >> >> I guess it depends on what you belive God is. >> >> >> >> >> If you believe that God is the creator then everything has Gods hand >> >> >> >> in it, if you further belive that God is omipitant then God you are >> >> >> >> exactly the way that God has designed you to be. >> >> >> >> > I believe that god/goddess/gods etc. are icons. They are concepts >> >> >> > that help >> >> >> > people cope with their own frailties and inadequacies. Whether it be >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > blame bad things on, attribute good things to, or to provide us a >> >> >> > path to >> >> >> > continue our existence beyond the grave. >> >> >> >> >> If you are a gardner, and you splice together two differant plants >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> gain a desird result, the plant does have a life of it's own, but >> >> >> >> works in the way you have designd it to. So in a real way you are >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> manipulator of that plants life, your hand is in all that it does, >> >> >> >> as >> >> >> >> you have designed it. >> >> >> >> > Here I would say that the original design was altered. A much easier >> >> >> > task >> >> >> > than the original design. >> >> >> >> > As I may have mentioned in a previous post, I readily accept the >> >> >> > possibility >> >> >> > that some entity may have created this universe. And, I think that >> >> >> > anything >> >> >> > with that kind of power would probably appear to be omniscient to us. >> >> >> > However, I also believe that it is VERY unlikely that any entity >> >> >> > that could >> >> >> > have created this reality would bare even the slightest resemblance >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > anything we describe as a god. >> >> >> >> > The reasoning for that seems fairly straightforward to me: >> >> >> >> > Most of the gods we have created seem to be pretty damn lame. I mean >> >> >> > come >> >> >> > on. You want me to kill a goat, sacrifice a virgin, or set fire to a >> >> >> > wax >> >> >> > stick in your honor. REALLY??? And you're going to send me to hell >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > eternity because I thought the neighbor's wife was a hot piece of >> >> >> > tail? >> >> >> > Jeesh. As gods go you suck dude. >> >> >> >> > Another thing. You would think that god would find a better way of >> >> >> > correcting bad behavior than to fry people for an eternity. Even we >> >> >> > lowly >> >> >> > humans know that setting someone on fire is not the best way to >> >> >> > convince 'em >> >> >> > to mend their ways. >> >> >> >> > Lastly but not finally. If god created this reality then at a >> >> >> > minimum he >> >> >> > created one and possibly infinitely more universes. In this one >> >> >> > there are an >> >> >> > estimated 300 sextillion stars. That's >> >> >> > 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars >> >> >> > if you're looking for precision. You would think that with all that >> >> >> > stuff >> >> >> > floating around out there that he/she/it would have better things to >> >> >> > do than >> >> >> > make sure that little johnnies prayers are answered with a brand new >> >> >> > bike on >> >> >> > his birthday. >> >> >> >> > My guess is that any entity capable of creating all of this would >> >> >> > see us as >> >> >> > a minor infestation of germs at best. >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 20, 5:40 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:32 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> > > Whatever work I do and the effort that I make , is it God doing >> >> >> >> > > it ? >> >> >> >> > > No , I do it all , but It is God who gives me the strength to >> >> >> >> > > do it. >> >> >> >> > > Without His strength even the resolve to do anything wouldn't >> >> >> >> > > come to >> >> >> >> > > my mind. >> >> >> >> >> > Now when you say that God is giving you strength can you be more >> >> >> >> > specific? >> >> >> >> > Is he providing your mitochondria with more ADP or is he upping >> >> >> >> > your >> >> >> >> > serotonin or dopamine levels to give you a greater feeling of >> >> >> >> > reward for >> >> >> >> > your accomplishments? >> >> >> >> >> > And, if so, can you tell me exactly how he does that? I mean, is >> >> >> >> > he >> >> >> >> > causing >> >> >> >> > re-uptake inhibition or is he actually producing a greater volume >> >> >> >> > of >> >> >> >> > chemical messengers at the synapse? >> >> >> >> >> > I guess if it's psychological strength it would have to be the >> >> >> >> > latter. >> >> >> >> > If it >> >> >> >> > were greater physical strength then you'd probably be able to >> >> >> >> > lift cars >> >> >> >> > off >> >> >> >> > the ground.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -
