I fail to see the differance?
On May 26, 7:59 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Instead of considering ourselves to be parts of the Whole , it would > be better in my opinion to consider ourselves differing images of the > Absolute in vessels of differing make and shape. Water in many vessels > of differing sizes and shapes in a ocean is the same , but it is not a > part of the ocean --it is actually the ocean. The illusion is the > vessel and not the water. > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:53 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > While I greatly appreciate emanationism on many levels, to ignore the > > consubstantial aspect of ‘the many’ simply ignores the experience of > > many humans. We have the ability to think and by thinking break down > > ‘the one’ into its component parts (as a thought, not an actuality). > > >http://www.iep.utm.edu/emanatio/ > > > On May 25, 8:50 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If we think that we are part of the " Whole " we are sort of dividing > >> up God. He then is no longer an entity but a composite of parts. The > >> truth is that we are not parts but emanations which make His existence > >> identifiable to our understanding. > >> The reflection of the sun is a proof of the sun ;similarly the world > >> is a proof of the Self. > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > "Our consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from > >> > matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all > >> > that > >> > is immortal. " > >> > I don't think that this must necessarily be the whole truth. What if one > >> > sees that all things are a part of the whole, that is the world and/or > >> > nature's way, and we perceive diverse phenomena by our natures > >> > inextricably? > > >> > I find it interesting that you would say the reflection of the sun in a > >> > puddle is not the sun, what else is the sun but the forces of nature > >> > which > >> > are the same as in the puddle? Our focus may be pointed at a less > >> > brilliant > >> > and direct portion in comparison to the sun but it is shining through > >> > nonetheless in everything if you know how or where to look. > > >> > On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RP Singh wrote: > > >> >> It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of things. The > >> >> world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world changes > >> >> over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God remains the > >> >> same always and is unborn , primeaval and indestructible--the same > >> >> cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am the One , > >> >> but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be the " One " > >> >> when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our > >> >> consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from > >> >> matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all > >> >> that is immortal. > > >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >>> How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world > >> >>> as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from > >> >>> self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it > >> >>> true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a > >> >>> dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view, > >> >>> all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and > >> >>> experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual > >> >>> perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a > >> >>> beginning or end. > > >> >>> On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >>>> In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed > >> >>>> , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality > >> >>>> there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , remains > >> >>>> what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God > >> >>>> ,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.- > >> >>>> Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
