> > Same idea differant words.
Hahaha, that's exactly the trick. That's when God falls to become Lucifer. It's the finding that they are telling you you need to do in order to rise back to Godstate. This is not what I understand RP says. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:06 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > As I say I fail to see the differance between putting this way, or > RP's way or my way. Same idea differant words. > > RP says that God is imminent but this does not mean that I am God, and > I agree with him, but I'm sure he'll agree that without finding God > within, you stand no chance in finding God without. > > It is a bold statement, but I honestly do try to see God in all > things, yep me included, and you too. > > Haha but of course it is hard to find God in some people. > > On May 26, 10:46 am, the taoist shaman <[email protected]> wrote: >> lee , o.r. , i think iknow what r.p. is getting at , forget the >> ocean , think of the stars , many different stars ( white red blue >> giant dwarf ect ) even the similar stars are different from each >> other , but they are part of the same whole , the galaxy , and though >> each galaxy is similar , and yet different , they are part of the same >> whole , the universe ....... if i were a glass of water id be a square >> glass with dull edges , ha ... ha .... :[ >> >> >> >> [email protected] wrote: >> > I fail to see the differance? >> >> > On May 26, 7:59 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Instead of considering ourselves to be parts of the Whole , it would >> > > be better in my opinion to consider ourselves differing images of the >> > > Absolute in vessels of differing make and shape. Water in many vessels >> > > of differing sizes and shapes in a ocean is the same , but it is not a >> > > part of the ocean --it is actually the ocean. The illusion is the >> > > vessel and not the water. >> >> > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:53 AM, ornamentalmind >> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > While I greatly appreciate emanationism on many levels, to ignore the >> > > > consubstantial aspect of ‘the many’ simply ignores the experience of >> > > > many humans. We have the ability to think and by thinking break down >> > > > ‘the one’ into its component parts (as a thought, not an actuality). >> >> > > >http://www.iep.utm.edu/emanatio/ >> >> > > > On May 25, 8:50 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> If we think that we are part of the " Whole " we are sort of dividing >> > > >> up God. He then is no longer an entity but a composite of parts. The >> > > >> truth is that we are not parts but emanations which make His existence >> > > >> identifiable to our understanding. >> > > >> The reflection of the sun is a proof of the sun ;similarly the world >> > > >> is a proof of the Self. >> >> > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > "Our consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from >> > > >> > matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all that >> > > >> > is immortal. " >> > > >> > I don't think that this must necessarily be the whole truth. What if one >> > > >> > sees that all things are a part of the whole, that is the world and/or >> > > >> > nature's way, and we perceive diverse phenomena by our natures inextricably? >> >> > > >> > I find it interesting that you would say the reflection of the sun in a >> > > >> > puddle is not the sun, what else is the sun but the forces of nature which >> > > >> > are the same as in the puddle? Our focus may be pointed at a less brilliant >> > > >> > and direct portion in comparison to the sun but it is shining through >> > > >> > nonetheless in everything if you know how or where to look. >> >> > > >> > On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RP Singh wrote: >> >> > > >> >> It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of things. The >> > > >> >> world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world changes >> > > >> >> over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God remains the >> > > >> >> same always and is unborn , primeaval and indestructible--the same >> > > >> >> cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am the One , >> > > >> >> but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be the " One " >> > > >> >> when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our >> > > >> >> consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from >> > > >> >> matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all >> > > >> >> that is immortal. >> >> > > >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> >>> How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world >> > > >> >>> as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from >> > > >> >>> self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it >> > > >> >>> true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a >> > > >> >>> dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view, >> > > >> >>> all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and >> > > >> >>> experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual >> > > >> >>> perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a >> > > >> >>> beginning or end. >> >> > > >> >>> On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> >>>> In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed >> > > >> >>>> , the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality >> > > >> >>>> there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , remains >> > > >> >>>> what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God >> > > >> >>>> ,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
