Panta re ouden menai RP. I understand that it would be ignorant to ask
for a science of mysticism but I am connecting the dots between
everything anyway. As I see it absolutes are models to help us conceive
of systems, metaphysical archetypes, a cross-section of imaginary points
to reduce the flow of patterns into something we can grasp. I prefer
starting with overlapping spheres at times but that is irrelevant, a
dismissable geometric aid. No matter how many times I've experienced
spiritual insight I repeatedly reformulate from the bottom up, I suppose
that is restless. I digress.
On 5/26/2011 11:17 PM, RP Singh wrote:
Ash , as far as we are concerned we are all real , we are neither
inside nor outside the One . The One is immanent in us. When we say
the world is an illusion it is because it is changeable and
destructible. It is not permanent.
I agree our experiences and nature cause misconceptions, some are
valuable some not because they fit needs to an extent of limited
perceptions. I believe that all things are polymorphic in theory, and I
think this indicates that there is infinite potential explanation for
things as they are, and their interrelations. Fractal geometry grows
from the egg, or such. Everything changes with a spark, which is the
culmination of forces driving a substance to an extreme until critical
mass and bam, noetic volition (previously assumed to be spontaneous
combustion or likewise concepts). Between permanence and impermanence
there is everything in between we cannot see due to limited perspective,
and apparent dichotomies dissolve, leaving a permanence of change. The
creative and conservative forces, and their archetypal children become
One and creation and destruction become the illusion. Maybe.
Space and all that is in it has
sprung from the One , and the One itself is pure Spirit. Our
individual identities are for a time being only , in actuality the One
is our real self. There is no such thing as my spirit or your spirit ,
there is only the One Spirit and it is the Absolute.
If there are published works on the school(s) influencing these ideas
could you reference them, or preferably your own work online (free)?
Seeing it all at once helps.
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Ash<[email protected]> wrote:
But then either the phenomenal experience granted by this 'corporeal'
(apparently) state is occuring within or without or some x-position in
relation to One. Something is without a doubt occuring in some fashion, as
we wouldn't be holding this conversation. If we are not within one, we are
outside of one? Absolutes give me much trouble so I won't be diving into the
essence at this time looking to verify our claims. From what state does this
perspective come from, to what or whom am I speaking (that this knowledge
you propose comes from)? Maybe that is a better start, I apologize for
taking the infuriatingly dense student route.
On 5/25/2011 11:50 PM, RP Singh wrote:
If we think that we are part of the " Whole " we are sort of dividing
up God. He then is no longer an entity but a composite of parts. The
truth is that we are not parts but emanations which make His existence
identifiable to our understanding.
The reflection of the sun is a proof of the sun ;similarly the world
is a proof of the Self.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Ash<[email protected]> wrote:
"Our consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all
that
is immortal. "
I don't think that this must necessarily be the whole truth. What if one
sees that all things are a part of the whole, that is the world and/or
nature's way, and we perceive diverse phenomena by our natures
inextricably?
I find it interesting that you would say the reflection of the sun in a
puddle is not the sun, what else is the sun but the forces of nature
which
are the same as in the puddle? Our focus may be pointed at a less
brilliant
and direct portion in comparison to the sun but it is shining through
nonetheless in everything if you know how or where to look.
On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RP Singh wrote:
It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of things. The
world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world changes
over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God remains the
same always and is unborn , primeaval and indestructible--the same
cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am the One ,
but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be the " One "
when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our
consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all
that is immortal.
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly<[email protected]> wrote:
How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world
as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from
self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it
true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a
dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view,
all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and
experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual
perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a
beginning or end.
On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote:
In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed
, the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality
there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , remains
what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God
,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.
