But then either the phenomenal experience granted by this 'corporeal'
(apparently) state is occuring within or without or some x-position in
relation to One. Something is without a doubt occuring in some fashion,
as we wouldn't be holding this conversation. If we are not within one,
we are outside of one? Absolutes give me much trouble so I won't be
diving into the essence at this time looking to verify our claims. From
what state does this perspective come from, to what or whom am I
speaking (that this knowledge you propose comes from)? Maybe that is a
better start, I apologize for taking the infuriatingly dense student route.
On 5/25/2011 11:50 PM, RP Singh wrote:
If we think that we are part of the " Whole " we are sort of dividing
up God. He then is no longer an entity but a composite of parts. The
truth is that we are not parts but emanations which make His existence
identifiable to our understanding.
The reflection of the sun is a proof of the sun ;similarly the world
is a proof of the Self.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Ash<[email protected]> wrote:
"Our consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all that
is immortal. "
I don't think that this must necessarily be the whole truth. What if one
sees that all things are a part of the whole, that is the world and/or
nature's way, and we perceive diverse phenomena by our natures inextricably?
I find it interesting that you would say the reflection of the sun in a
puddle is not the sun, what else is the sun but the forces of nature which
are the same as in the puddle? Our focus may be pointed at a less brilliant
and direct portion in comparison to the sun but it is shining through
nonetheless in everything if you know how or where to look.
On 5/19/2011 10:04 AM, RP Singh wrote:
It is not a matter of perspective but the very nature of things. The
world is dualistic by nature and God is Non-Dual.The world changes
over time and is never in a constant state , whereas God remains the
same always and is unborn , primeaval and indestructible--the same
cannot be said of the world. It is so easy to say that I am the One ,
but when a needle pricks you you grimace , how can you be the " One "
when you feel pleasure and pain , happy and depressed. Our
consciousness makes us think that we are special , far removed from
matter , but in reality we are mortal and it is the One Spirit in all
that is immortal.
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Molly<[email protected]> wrote:
How is it possible, from a non dual perspective, to perceive the world
as dualistic in nature, and thus an illusion (and separate from
self)? By definition, this view would remain dualistic. I do think it
true that how we view the world forms our experience. From a
dualistic view, some are right, some are wrong. From a non dual view,
all views are the One/many paradox that is One. How we view (and
experience) birth and death changes as we change. From a non dual
perspective, they are only states of transformation and not a
beginning or end.
On May 17, 2:07 pm, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote:
In duality there is the relationship of the observer and the observed
, the knower and the known , that is , there are two. In Non-Duality
there is only One and the world which is dualistic in nature , remains
what it is , just an illusion - i.e. subject to birth and death. God
,Reality or Atman is Non-Dual and duality is just its expression.
