pre meditated expectations are one of the biggest downfalls of our race ,( expect nothing and therefor everything ), dependency as well , i dont make plans or prommises , because the futer is unpredictable , and i dont like to dissapoint people , to have dependancy is to reliy on expectations , and is a set up for failure, i know this is off subject , im sorry.
as far as the subject of visitors from a nother world/dimention ...... its touchy , i will say this if you dont belive in "god" logic would point twards intelligent life outside this planet, ...... its an internal conflict, by logic there MUST be intelligence beyond the humans, but to belive claims of abduction is scetchy , why? reports of beings from "out of this world" is older than writing, litteraly , but is it spiritual or extra terestryal? ...... god doesnt need a space ship. its very possible that we have been visited by spirit and ET( through out history) IE. alexander the great , cristifar columabs , anistazy tribe , ezicuals vision , cave paintings in the saharra desert , there are many dipictions of space craft above mother mary ion old pailtings, ...... ressurection is a prominant idea , almost world wide and timeless , sort of like the story of the flood , in fact im writing a , what i would call, a compairative annalissis, of timless world wide belifes , ive been working on it for years, the difficult part is almost done, but i regress.........<--------?! , but i digress , ...ive lost my thoughts . On Jun 9, 9:58 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > I call that daydreaming or on mental "pause" or automatic mode- that's > from being an only child, I think. I sometimes "rewrite" the news- in > the style of John le Carre or Scott Turow- to twist the ending. I > watch less and less tv but try to catch the words in the news that > influence an agenda or judgement beyond the facts- that's getting to > be a game.// We are dependent upon our expectations, aren't we? > > On Jun 9, 11:07 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I often find myself thinking about trance states and how we could spot > > them. The classic for me is that we are merely vehicles for our > > machine-like genes something I find 'true' and highly unlikely until I > > switch the tv on. I believe both that we are tranced and that > > ejukation is part of it. Various herd and pack animals are quite > > clearly tranced in respect of leadership by chemical-biological > > means. We have some idea of the operation in humans. The networks of > > our held world-views are highly self-deceptive and not really amenable > > to 'facts'. When we look scientifically, we find 'cactus structures' > > of control - my sense is that 'spin' knows something of this, but we > > fear something that is evolving that would replace the world view > > levels we have that would not rely on trance. > > > On Jun 9, 4:32 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You're not being manipulated. You're going after something you really > > > want. I think that's different. > > > > On Jun 8, 9:11 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure I can agree with the idea that education makes us less > > > > susceptible to manipulation. In some cases it may even make us more > > > > susceptible. Using myself as an example, I'm fairly well educated with > > > > about > > > > 5 years of college but if you dangle the latest high performance > > > > graphics > > > > card or multi-core processor in front of me you'll have me drooling > > > > like a > > > > lobotomy patient in no time. > > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > In regards to manipulation by culture/ads and the advantage of > > > > > education and it continuation in adult life, I would say it allows us > > > > > to see through the obvious exaggeration, lack of logic and attempt to > > > > > create an artificial want/need/desire. In fact, the exercise is pretty > > > > > humorous but I do admit to having a few shopaholic moments in my own > > > > > life so I have also been gullible. > > > > > > On Jun 7, 10:15 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hummm... For some reason I had the impression you were male. > > > > > > > At any rate, I don't think education or economic status has much to > > > > > > do > > > > > with > > > > > > our susceptibility. We can all be manipulated into believing things > > > > > > that > > > > > > aren't necessarily true. Take the social prerogative to stay one up > > > > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > next door neighbors. Millions are spent on commercial campaigns > > > > > > that try > > > > > and > > > > > > convince us that we should have a bigger TV, newer car, or better > > > > > > furniture.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
