On 6/10/2011 10:00 AM, Pat wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:35 pm, Ash<[email protected]> wrote:
On 6/8/2011 11:33 AM, Pat wrote:> On Jun 8, 2:44
pm,"[email protected]"<[email protected]>
wrote:
Is the right to use your intelect to draw conclusions really a right?
Naaa I would not have thought so.
Ahh, but that's not exactly what I said. I said, "you have the
granted right to misinterpret the truth at your leisure". Drawing
conclusions is, though, the larger part of thinking. Do we not have
the appearance of the right to think? The truth, of course, is that
our thoughts are God's and we're just multiprocessors with differing
firmware. But it might take an IT guru to fully grasp that analogy
Beautiful Pat, but the analogy implies that computationally we should be
solving some problem or calculation: life, the universe and everything?
The problem we are solving is the answer to the question "How do we
get to the end of this universe?" As we don't know where it's headed,
it's difficult for us to determine; but, for God, who can't help but
know where the universe is headed, God simply act and we are a part of
those actions that lead to the end. Yes, it's teleological, but space-
time IS a teleological entity.
You should know that I have strong reservations against an absolutely
linear (or deterministic) temporality, I agree only so far as satisfying
causal relationships. How is space-time a teleological entity? Not sure
I understand that clearly, as it seems to dissolve the further from
biological systems you get. Even the teleological focus in biology seems
for brevity, as the functions (or purposes) are complex and dynamic,
self reinforcing. Multiple goals embedded in the gene programming
competing for further expression, the arrow is repeatedly re-set to
forward and failing that test means death leaving more opportunity for
other competing genes. Hmm, this is a tough one because purpose is
emergent and apparent (IMO) though I reject outright ontological
reductionism. Perhaps considering a suitably complex conception of
either (with or without purpose) they merge, as aspects of a process.
What is the hybrid?
Or I could be on a confused tangent, it happens. :p
