The Devil might be in charge. How do we know it is God?
On Jun 17, 10:29 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know about desire but there are motivational forces which > precede Will. They may be your instincts , your morality , and your > attachments. ' Will ' is just the vehicle and the motivational forces > are the drivers. The driver who is the strongest at the moment takes > over the command of the vehicle , and it is the beauty of God's > creation that to an individual he himself is the sole driver. Maybe > the motivational forces are the traffic signals which the ' individual > will ' follows. > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just being a spectator here, I know: may we get some anecdotal examples out? > > > My thoughts on this are in agreement with rigsy and RP. Learning about the > > Will is facilitated and refined through understanding my desires. Perhaps > > Will is the very strong association built up as we explore the terrain of > > the world in relation to our nature. But watching my 3yr old reminds me that > > there are elements of Will that precede desire, perhaps Will precedes Desire > > but since it is blind/deaf/dumb Desire is the creative element. (?) > > > On 6/17/2011 6:20 AM, RP Singh wrote: > > >> Well Rigsy , I think that reason and understanding may also be called > >> psychological desire , to fit in with your definition , as it carries > >> along the will on many occasions. > > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:57 AM, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> I agree with your division of desire and within those are the degrees > >>> I think I mentioned. There are different kinds of Will, as well. But I > >>> shall stick to my guns: Desire preceeds Will and defines the type of > >>> action to be taken otherwise Will would be wandering around in > >>> circles. > > >>> On Jun 16, 1:36 am, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Desires are of various kinds : physical , psychological and spiritual. > >>>> Will is the agent which leads you to the fulfillment of any or , maybe > >>>> , all three. > > >>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Contemplative<[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> Hope you don't mind my jumping in.... > >>>>> To my way of thinking, desire is passive, where-as will is active. > >>>>> Desiring something does not change anything external to the one with > >>>>> the > >>>>> desire. > >>>>> Will, on the other hand, indicates a change in behavior that leads to > >>>>> action, whether consciously or sub-consciously. > >>>>> ...just a thought...- Hide quoted text - > > >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
