I don't know about desire but there are motivational forces which
precede Will. They may be your instincts , your morality , and your
attachments. ' Will ' is just the vehicle and the motivational forces
are the drivers. The driver who is the strongest at the moment takes
over the command of the vehicle , and it is the beauty of God's
creation that to an individual he himself is the sole driver. Maybe
the motivational forces are the traffic signals which the ' individual
will ' follows.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just being a spectator here, I know: may we get some anecdotal examples out?
>
> My thoughts on this are in agreement with rigsy and RP. Learning about the
> Will is facilitated and refined through understanding my desires. Perhaps
> Will is the very strong association built up as we explore the terrain of
> the world in relation to our nature. But watching my 3yr old reminds me that
> there are elements of Will that precede desire, perhaps Will precedes Desire
> but since it is blind/deaf/dumb Desire is the creative element. (?)
>
> On 6/17/2011 6:20 AM, RP Singh wrote:
>>
>> Well Rigsy , I think that reason and understanding may also be called
>> psychological desire , to fit in with your definition , as it  carries
>> along the will on many occasions.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:57 AM, rigsy03<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with your division of desire and within those are the degrees
>>> I think I mentioned. There are different kinds of Will, as well. But I
>>> shall stick to my guns: Desire preceeds Will and defines the type of
>>> action to be taken otherwise Will would be wandering around in
>>> circles.
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 1:36 am, RP Singh<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Desires are of various kinds : physical , psychological and spiritual.
>>>> Will is the agent which leads you to the fulfillment of any or , maybe
>>>> , all three.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Contemplative<[email protected]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope you don't mind my jumping in....
>>>>> To my way of thinking, desire is passive, where-as will is active.
>>>>> Desiring something does not change anything external to the one with
>>>>> the
>>>>> desire.
>>>>> Will, on the other hand, indicates a change in behavior that leads to
>>>>> action, whether consciously or sub-consciously.
>>>>> ...just a thought...- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
>

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