I'm partial to the fates myself, and perhaps elements of an unspoken
Gaia spiritualism (as a sort of local conduit/persona/Mother to the
psyche/pranic universe) . Don't hold me to it, they are entirely undefined.
On 6/17/2011 9:06 PM, RP Singh wrote:
If there is a Devil beside God then there would be many gods.
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:45 AM, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote:
The Devil might be in charge. How do we know it is God?
On Jun 17, 10:29 am, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote:
I don't know about desire but there are motivational forces which
precede Will. They may be your instincts , your morality , and your
attachments. ' Will ' is just the vehicle and the motivational forces
are the drivers. The driver who is the strongest at the moment takes
over the command of the vehicle , and it is the beauty of God's
creation that to an individual he himself is the sole driver. Maybe
the motivational forces are the traffic signals which the ' individual
will ' follows.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Ash<[email protected]> wrote:
Just being a spectator here, I know: may we get some anecdotal examples out?
My thoughts on this are in agreement with rigsy and RP. Learning about the
Will is facilitated and refined through understanding my desires. Perhaps
Will is the very strong association built up as we explore the terrain of
the world in relation to our nature. But watching my 3yr old reminds me that
there are elements of Will that precede desire, perhaps Will precedes Desire
but since it is blind/deaf/dumb Desire is the creative element. (?)
On 6/17/2011 6:20 AM, RP Singh wrote:
Well Rigsy , I think that reason and understanding may also be called
psychological desire , to fit in with your definition , as it carries
along the will on many occasions.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:57 AM, rigsy03<[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with your division of desire and within those are the degrees
I think I mentioned. There are different kinds of Will, as well. But I
shall stick to my guns: Desire preceeds Will and defines the type of
action to be taken otherwise Will would be wandering around in
circles.
On Jun 16, 1:36 am, RP Singh<[email protected]> wrote:
Desires are of various kinds : physical , psychological and spiritual.
Will is the agent which leads you to the fulfillment of any or , maybe
, all three.
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Contemplative<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hope you don't mind my jumping in....
To my way of thinking, desire is passive, where-as will is active.
Desiring something does not change anything external to the one with
the
desire.
Will, on the other hand, indicates a change in behavior that leads to
action, whether consciously or sub-consciously.
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