Yes, Florida is a great place to live…IF one likes giant flying roaches (palmetto bugs), sand spurs, sand fleas that bite, skin damaging and cataract producing sun rays, a draconian regressive government, 100% humidity after the daily showers, mold growing on everything, moss choking the life out of the trees, sink holes in every yard, gaiters roaming the canals, being underwater - having the lowest elevation above sea level of all the States, being the target of most hurricanes in the region, general ignorance and xenophobia as the mood of the day, drug cartels, massive unemployment etc….
On Oct 9, 7:40 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Raining here now also. Finally. We need it so badly here in Texas. One thing > I remember about Fl. is during summer it would rain almost daily. for about > 10 to 15 minutes. Then sunny with nice cool breeze. Nice place to live > Florida. > > dj > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Chris Jenkins > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > *laughing* In all of the protests nationwide, supporters are being fed by > > donors. Food and water has been readily available. The pizzas Thursday were > > donated byhttp://crooksandliars.com. > > > We have hard storms blowing through the Bay today...I'm thinking that's > > going to put a heavy damper on today's planned assembly. It's a bit > > difficult to hold a sign in a 25MPH windy rainstorm. > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Chris Jenkins <[email protected] > >> > wrote: > > >>> He wasn't selling, Don. Those were donated to feed the protesters. He was > >>> just delivering them. > > >>> DAmn. > > >> dj > > >>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> I liked the pic of the guy selling pizzas. I'd like it even better if > >>>> they weren't ordered but he just showed up with 20 pepperonis hoping to > >>>> make > >>>> a couple of bucks. Illegally probably. No permit and so forth. Go 99%! > > >>>> dj > > >>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> Good pictures, Chris. You've been doing a great job. You show exactly > >>>>> what you wanted to show and what people need to see. So yes, you passed > >>>>> rule > >>>>> #10. ;) > > >>>>> A little bit more un-normalcy is what I'd like to see next time. A fat > >>>>> American family looking irritated out of their car window at the > >>>>> marching protesters. Something like that. > > >>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Chris Jenkins < > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> Gabby, I hope you approve. I tried my best to follow rule #10: > > >>>>>>https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150334273466494.348470.72... > > >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Chris Jenkins < > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>> Actually, we all brought garbage bags, and cleaned up after > >>>>>>> ourselves. As for finding a job, I've been on the market for over 18 > >>>>>>> months, > >>>>>>> with a solid, industry professional resume, and have found nothing. > >>>>>>> Meanwhile, many of my former colleagues have joined my ranks. > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:19 AM, [email protected] < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> The biased media and comics have been trashing conservatives and > >>>>>>>> ridiculing the Tea Party and various candidiates so you have to > >>>>>>>> expect > >>>>>>>> some payback. > > >>>>>>>> How do these protestors expect to find a job or stay in school if > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> spend all their time protesting? Who will pay for the clean-up? What > >>>>>>>> business would risk hiring these people? > > >>>>>>>> Most loot is not easily transported. :-) > > >>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 9:40 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > I scanned it and agree, a bit bullshitty but one must admire the > >>>>>>>> hopeful > >>>>>>>> > tone the writer emits. So the Occupiers are all about coming > >>>>>>>> together if not > >>>>>>>> > completely cogent on their reasons for doing so. Where the Tea > >>>>>>>> Party, to me, > >>>>>>>> > has mostly been about tax and spending cuts Tthe Occupiers seem, > >>>>>>>> again to > >>>>>>>> > me(it's a shame it's still so unclear) to be all about political > >>>>>>>> corporate > >>>>>>>> > favoritism. I would hesitate to label the 99%ers as Class Warriors > >>>>>>>> although > >>>>>>>> > many of their organizers seem to have this at the top of their > >>>>>>>> agenda. > > >>>>>>>> > I'm disappointed in the rhetoric from Conservative mouthpieces > >>>>>>>> like Limbaugh > >>>>>>>> > that are trashing the movement. Ridiculing the protestors and so > >>>>>>>> forth. It > >>>>>>>> > would make more sense to recognize that there are those that are > >>>>>>>> having some > >>>>>>>> > tough times and try to help educate those disaffected folks on the > >>>>>>>> real > >>>>>>>> > problems which isn't rich people per se. It's bad government. By > >>>>>>>> both > >>>>>>>> > Republicans and Democrats. In a nutshell, too much wasteful > >>>>>>>> spending and not > >>>>>>>> > enough pin-pointed economic stimulus spending. > > >>>>>>>> > Thanks for the link to the Boston Group Arch I'll probably read it > >>>>>>>> again > >>>>>>>> > soon. These economist make sense but the real problem is going to > >>>>>>>> be coming > >>>>>>>> > up with something everyone can swallow. We sure don't need our > >>>>>>>> very own > >>>>>>>> > Reign Of Terror. Nobody wants to give in here. If I was rich I'd > >>>>>>>> be tired of > >>>>>>>> > being called the bad guy all the time unless I really was the bad > >>>>>>>> guy in > >>>>>>>> > which case I wouldn't care a fig. I'd take my loot and go > >>>>>>>> somewhere else. > >>>>>>>> > God help us all. > > >>>>>>>> > dj > > >>>>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, archytas <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > There's a take on Occupy Wall Street at > > >>>>>>>>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/matt-stoller-the-anti-politics. > >>>>>>>> .. > >>>>>>>> > > - that sounds like Allan - a bit bullshitty (sorry Al - not you) > >>>>>>>> Chris > >>>>>>>> > > but an interesting take. > > >>>>>>>> > > I can't stand any standard politics now. It's madness. > > >>>>>>>> > > On Oct 6, 8:36 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > I think there is where the problem lies,, several decades ago > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> > > > revolution was bassed off ideology differences (the Little Red > >>>>>>>> Book) > >>>>>>>> > > this > >>>>>>>> > > > really was not a valid reason.. > > >>>>>>>> > > > today I see > > >>>>>>>>http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/matt-stoller-the-anti-politics...,, > >>>>>>>> especially in the US also to a > >>>>>>>> > > > lesser extent Europe.. in the US there are other problems > >>>>>>>> there are > >>>>>>>> > > > existing undergrounds outside of police intelligence,, there > >>>>>>>> are massive > >>>>>>>> > > > amounts of weapons out of site and out of mind and other than > >>>>>>>> the owner > >>>>>>>> > > no > >>>>>>>> > > > one knows about them.. Even I still have guns and I no longer > >>>>>>>> live > >>>>>>>> > > there.. > > >>>>>>>> > > > The US is extremely Large,, there is also a large community of > >>>>>>>> motor > >>>>>>>> > > homes > >>>>>>>> > > > which have the ability move and potentially lower the cost of > >>>>>>>> living.. > >>>>>>>> > > > and organize.. the police are not unsympathetic either as they > >>>>>>>> often > >>>>>>>> > > times > >>>>>>>> > > > in the same or similar situation.. > > >>>>>>>> > > > I do believe co-op-s will become more plentiful, underground > >>>>>>>> work will > >>>>>>>> > > > become more prevalent.. it will change,, I think the start > >>>>>>>> is in > >>>>>>>> > > > eliminating the political corruption that is so embedded.. > >>>>>>>> > > > sigh > >>>>>>>> > > > Allan > > >>>>>>>> > > > I hate change .. but greed is so wide spread.. a tremendous > >>>>>>>> lose > >>>>>>>> > > > of spirituality ,, but fundamentalism may have some perks > >>>>>>>> in the end,, > > >>>>>>>> > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Chris Jenkins < > >>>>>>>> > > [email protected]>wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > > > I see BoA as an infinitely powerful entity, and can't > >>>>>>>> imagine the > >>>>>>>> > > behemoth > >>>>>>>> > > > > falling. > >>>>>>>> > > > > On Oct 5, 2011 10:18 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > > > Pruning ain't the metaphor I'd choose Chris. Dexia Bank > >>>>>>>> has just gone > >>>>>>>> > > > > > belly-up - it was 'worth' more than Belgium's GDP. The > >>>>>>>> 'money' in the > >>>>>>>> > > > > > banking scam is at factors of ten in comparison with the > >>>>>>>> world of > >>>>>>>> > > real > >>>>>>>> > > > > > work. My view is that it's in the way of capitalism and > >>>>>>>> democracy. > >>>>>>>> > > > > > The informed guess is they've been lending to crooks on a > >>>>>>>> scale > >>>>>>>> > > vastly > >>>>>>>> > > > > > bigger than the barrel-loads of dollars gone in Iraq and > >>>>>>>> Afghanistan > >>>>>>>> > > > > > without securing any 'mineral rights'. The kleft stick is > >>>>>>>> that they > >>>>>>>> > > > > > can only make money through the same old scams, so > >>>>>>>> whatever we put > >>>>>>>> > > > > > back in (and I mean we) just does it all over again. In an > >>>>>>>> > > > > > oversimplified way, much of the debt is like you owing me > >>>>>>>> $2 million, > >>>>>>>> > > > > > Don owing 'Francois' $5 million, me owing Molly (etc.) in > >>>>>>>> an equation > >>>>>>>> > > > > > in which, if we cancelled out we're all solvent and I owe > >>>>>>>> Orn a beer > >>>>>>>> > > > > > he won'r drink. What goes in the cancelling is the banks - > >>>>>>>> the debts > >>>>>>>> > > > > > are so networked it's almost like the $2 million you owe > >>>>>>>> me is > >>>>>>>> > > > > > balanced by $1.99 million I owe to people who owe you. > >>>>>>>> I've been > >>>>>>>> > > > > > teaching the EU figures if anyone is interested (they just > >>>>>>>> tell this > >>>>>>>> > > > > > story between EU countries). > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > We've finally seen some reporting here. A Wall Street guy > >>>>>>>> came on and > >>>>>>>> > > > > > said he was amazed more people weren't protesting as he > >>>>>>>> thought true > >>>>>>>> > > > > > unemployment was at 15% - which is what I reckon here. The > >>>>>>>> real issue > >>>>>>>> > > > > > to me is jobs and wages. A key figure for me is that the > >>>>>>>> bottom 50% > >>>>>>>> > > > > > back in 1980 had 14% of liquid assets (cash more or less) > >>>>>>>> and that's > >>>>>>>> > > > > > down to 1% now. Wages have fallen. The debt problem starts > > ... > > read more »
