*laughing*. Come now, OM. It's not all that bad.
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:03 AM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>wrote: > Yes, Florida is a great place to live…IF one likes giant flying > roaches (palmetto bugs), sand spurs, sand fleas that bite, skin > damaging and cataract producing sun rays, a draconian regressive > government, 100% humidity after the daily showers, mold growing on > everything, moss choking the life out of the trees, sink holes in > every yard, gaiters roaming the canals, being underwater - having the > lowest elevation above sea level of all the States, being the target > of most hurricanes in the region, general ignorance and xenophobia as > the mood of the day, drug cartels, massive unemployment etc…. > > On Oct 9, 7:40 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Raining here now also. Finally. We need it so badly here in Texas. One > thing > > I remember about Fl. is during summer it would rain almost daily. for > about > > 10 to 15 minutes. Then sunny with nice cool breeze. Nice place to live > > Florida. > > > > dj > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Chris Jenkins < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *laughing* In all of the protests nationwide, supporters are being fed > by > > > donors. Food and water has been readily available. The pizzas Thursday > were > > > donated byhttp://crooksandliars.com. > > > > > We have hard storms blowing through the Bay today...I'm thinking that's > > > going to put a heavy damper on today's planned assembly. It's a bit > > > difficult to hold a sign in a 25MPH windy rainstorm. > > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Chris Jenkins < > [email protected] > > >> > wrote: > > > > >>> He wasn't selling, Don. Those were donated to feed the protesters. He > was > > >>> just delivering them. > > > > >>> DAmn. > > > > >> dj > > > > >>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >>>> I liked the pic of the guy selling pizzas. I'd like it even better > if > > >>>> they weren't ordered but he just showed up with 20 pepperonis hoping > to make > > >>>> a couple of bucks. Illegally probably. No permit and so forth. Go > 99%! > > > > >>>> dj > > > > >>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >>>>> Good pictures, Chris. You've been doing a great job. You show > exactly > > >>>>> what you wanted to show and what people need to see. So yes, you > passed rule > > >>>>> #10. ;) > > > > >>>>> A little bit more un-normalcy is what I'd like to see next time. A > fat > > >>>>> American family looking irritated out of their car window at the > > >>>>> marching protesters. Something like that. > > > > >>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Chris Jenkins < > > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Gabby, I hope you approve. I tried my best to follow rule #10: > > > > >>>>>> > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150334273466494.348470.72... > > > > >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Chris Jenkins < > > >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> Actually, we all brought garbage bags, and cleaned up after > > >>>>>>> ourselves. As for finding a job, I've been on the market for over > 18 months, > > >>>>>>> with a solid, industry professional resume, and have found > nothing. > > >>>>>>> Meanwhile, many of my former colleagues have joined my ranks. > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:19 AM, [email protected] < > > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> The biased media and comics have been trashing conservatives and > > >>>>>>>> ridiculing the Tea Party and various candidiates so you have to > > >>>>>>>> expect > > >>>>>>>> some payback. > > > > >>>>>>>> How do these protestors expect to find a job or stay in school > if > > >>>>>>>> they > > >>>>>>>> spend all their time protesting? Who will pay for the clean-up? > What > > >>>>>>>> business would risk hiring these people? > > > > >>>>>>>> Most loot is not easily transported. :-) > > > > >>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 9:40 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > I scanned it and agree, a bit bullshitty but one must admire > the > > >>>>>>>> hopeful > > >>>>>>>> > tone the writer emits. So the Occupiers are all about coming > > >>>>>>>> together if not > > >>>>>>>> > completely cogent on their reasons for doing so. Where the Tea > > >>>>>>>> Party, to me, > > >>>>>>>> > has mostly been about tax and spending cuts Tthe Occupiers > seem, > > >>>>>>>> again to > > >>>>>>>> > me(it's a shame it's still so unclear) to be all about > political > > >>>>>>>> corporate > > >>>>>>>> > favoritism. I would hesitate to label the 99%ers as Class > Warriors > > >>>>>>>> although > > >>>>>>>> > many of their organizers seem to have this at the top of their > > >>>>>>>> agenda. > > > > >>>>>>>> > I'm disappointed in the rhetoric from Conservative mouthpieces > > >>>>>>>> like Limbaugh > > >>>>>>>> > that are trashing the movement. Ridiculing the protestors and > so > > >>>>>>>> forth. It > > >>>>>>>> > would make more sense to recognize that there are those that > are > > >>>>>>>> having some > > >>>>>>>> > tough times and try to help educate those disaffected folks on > the > > >>>>>>>> real > > >>>>>>>> > problems which isn't rich people per se. It's bad government. > By > > >>>>>>>> both > > >>>>>>>> > Republicans and Democrats. In a nutshell, too much wasteful > > >>>>>>>> spending and not > > >>>>>>>> > enough pin-pointed economic stimulus spending. > > > > >>>>>>>> > Thanks for the link to the Boston Group Arch I'll probably > read it > > >>>>>>>> again > > >>>>>>>> > soon. These economist make sense but the real problem is going > to > > >>>>>>>> be coming > > >>>>>>>> > up with something everyone can swallow. We sure don't need our > > >>>>>>>> very own > > >>>>>>>> > Reign Of Terror. Nobody wants to give in here. If I was rich > I'd > > >>>>>>>> be tired of > > >>>>>>>> > being called the bad guy all the time unless I really was the > bad > > >>>>>>>> guy in > > >>>>>>>> > which case I wouldn't care a fig. I'd take my loot and go > > >>>>>>>> somewhere else. > > >>>>>>>> > God help us all. > > > > >>>>>>>> > dj > > > > >>>>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, archytas <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > There's a take on Occupy Wall Street at > > > > >>>>>>>> > http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/matt-stoller-the-anti-politics. > > >>>>>>>> .. > > >>>>>>>> > > - that sounds like Allan - a bit bullshitty (sorry Al - not > you) > > >>>>>>>> Chris > > >>>>>>>> > > but an interesting take. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > I can't stand any standard politics now. It's madness. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > On Oct 6, 8:36 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > > I think there is where the problem lies,, several decades > ago > > >>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> > > > revolution was bassed off ideology differences (the Little > Red > > >>>>>>>> Book) > > >>>>>>>> > > this > > >>>>>>>> > > > really was not a valid reason.. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > today I see > > > > >>>>>>>> > http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/matt-stoller-the-anti-politics...,, > especially in the US also to a > > >>>>>>>> > > > lesser extent Europe.. in the US there are other problems > > >>>>>>>> there are > > >>>>>>>> > > > existing undergrounds outside of police intelligence,, > there > > >>>>>>>> are massive > > >>>>>>>> > > > amounts of weapons out of site and out of mind and other > than > > >>>>>>>> the owner > > >>>>>>>> > > no > > >>>>>>>> > > > one knows about them.. Even I still have guns and I no > longer > > >>>>>>>> live > > >>>>>>>> > > there.. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > The US is extremely Large,, there is also a large > community of > > >>>>>>>> motor > > >>>>>>>> > > homes > > >>>>>>>> > > > which have the ability move and potentially lower the > cost of > > >>>>>>>> living.. > > >>>>>>>> > > > and organize.. the police are not unsympathetic either as > they > > >>>>>>>> often > > >>>>>>>> > > times > > >>>>>>>> > > > in the same or similar situation.. > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > I do believe co-op-s will become more plentiful, > underground > > >>>>>>>> work will > > >>>>>>>> > > > become more prevalent.. it will change,, I think the > start > > >>>>>>>> is in > > >>>>>>>> > > > eliminating the political corruption that is so embedded.. > > >>>>>>>> > > > sigh > > >>>>>>>> > > > Allan > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > I hate change .. but greed is so wide spread.. a > tremendous > > >>>>>>>> lose > > >>>>>>>> > > > of spirituality ,, but fundamentalism may have some > perks > > >>>>>>>> in the end,, > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Chris Jenkins < > > >>>>>>>> > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > I see BoA as an infinitely powerful entity, and can't > > >>>>>>>> imagine the > > >>>>>>>> > > behemoth > > >>>>>>>> > > > > falling. > > >>>>>>>> > > > > On Oct 5, 2011 10:18 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > Pruning ain't the metaphor I'd choose Chris. Dexia > Bank > > >>>>>>>> has just gone > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > belly-up - it was 'worth' more than Belgium's GDP. The > > >>>>>>>> 'money' in the > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > banking scam is at factors of ten in comparison with > the > > >>>>>>>> world of > > >>>>>>>> > > real > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > work. My view is that it's in the way of capitalism > and > > >>>>>>>> democracy. > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > The informed guess is they've been lending to crooks > on a > > >>>>>>>> scale > > >>>>>>>> > > vastly > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > bigger than the barrel-loads of dollars gone in Iraq > and > > >>>>>>>> Afghanistan > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > without securing any 'mineral rights'. The kleft stick > is > > >>>>>>>> that they > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > can only make money through the same old scams, so > > >>>>>>>> whatever we put > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > back in (and I mean we) just does it all over again. > In an > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > oversimplified way, much of the debt is like you owing > me > > >>>>>>>> $2 million, > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > Don owing 'Francois' $5 million, me owing Molly (etc.) > in > > >>>>>>>> an equation > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > in which, if we cancelled out we're all solvent and I > owe > > >>>>>>>> Orn a beer > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > he won'r drink. What goes in the cancelling is the > banks - > > >>>>>>>> the debts > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > are so networked it's almost like the $2 million you > owe > > >>>>>>>> me is > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > balanced by $1.99 million I owe to people who owe you. > > >>>>>>>> I've been > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > teaching the EU figures if anyone is interested (they > just > > >>>>>>>> tell this > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > story between EU countries). > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > We've finally seen some reporting here. A Wall Street > guy > > >>>>>>>> came on and > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > said he was amazed more people weren't protesting as > he > > >>>>>>>> thought true > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > unemployment was at 15% - which is what I reckon here. > The > > >>>>>>>> real issue > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > to me is jobs and wages. A key figure for me is that > the > > >>>>>>>> bottom 50% > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > back in 1980 had 14% of liquid assets (cash more or > less) > > >>>>>>>> and that's > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > down to 1% now. Wages have fallen. The debt problem > starts > > > > ... > > > > read more » >
