yes sports is dangerous stuff ,,steroids are not uncommon also carried on though pro sports oops I forgot they buy off the drug czar
I do not see why you really don't look into what is going on instead of just spout republican rhetoric.. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: > I should have added independence from family, sex and drinking though > the latter two are primed in highschool. Also, students can read and > write but many need (forgot the term) classes to improve their skills. > Not sure if handwriting/grammar is even a factor anymore. // Then > there's sports- though Obama thinks it is dangerous stuff along with > gun ownership so soon American men/women will be civilian wimps. But > the military is an alternative to college/poor employment > opportunities so there is always an answer unless one considers > military service a risk and who would do that? > > On Jan 28, 8:57 am, rigs <[email protected]> wrote: >> Considering that many movers and shakers were lucky to get a >> highschool education back in the '20's and '30's and that some recent >> innovators dropped out of college one does start to question the >> process. Add up the loan debt, as well. College may be a form of the >> caste system, networking or opportunity/income leveler. I repeat my >> stated opinion that college is a respectable place to park ones >> children for some parents. It used to be a place to meet a mate but >> now a career is the object since two can no longer live as cheaply as >> one. Often college entrants still cannot read or write plus now they >> have expectations of a certain level of hype and bedazzlement.// >> Teachers burn out in some subjects because it's 24/7- just in >> correcting essay exams and term papers plus checking for plagiarizims, >> etc. and because they are expected to be sort of a pseudo-parent/ >> nursemaid/sex-object/inspiration all while getting published to prove >> their value/worth to the institution.//Once one learns to read and >> comprehend they can teach themselves most anything. A library card >> will do... >> >> On Jan 28, 6:39 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Strangely enough Lee I do experience that! Brian Clough should have >> > been England manager! One finds a lot of arrogant ignorance in >> > classrooms and a lot of stereotyping by teachers and students. >> > Teaching is often a weird experience and difficult to drop from the >> > system - something pretty important to let learning take place. I >> > don't use textbooks unless I've given up on a class that won't fend >> > for itself (some demand spoonfeeding and find discovery learning >> > terrifying). It's easy enough to get classes round to looking at work >> > motivation in terms of the content and process theories of 'chapter >> > three' and regurgitate what's there. To a man jack they'd all give up >> > work if they won the lottery, suggesting a rather different theory. >> > I'm sure the books are mostly wrong and that more than that the need >> > for basic texts is a combination of bad teachers and commercial >> > pressures to get bums through seats. I try to met people do what >> > interests them, what they want to find and express - but as in all >> > human activity there is a problem with people promising 'your own way' >> > who don't mean it. And it's much more difficult today to defend >> > students who don't toe to the party line. Is it possible to 'respect >> > ignorance' but at the same time fail it? What is a person who wants >> > to stay ignorant doing in a learning environment? Further down the >> > line one often finds research leads one to the conclusion that what's >> > taught is rubbish - something one might also achieve just in reacting >> > to a teacher one doesn't like without doing the hard work! Our >> > schools claim to be doing a better job than ever - but walking Max >> > through litter and evading broken bottles left by the products of >> > school education I'm not so sure. Still smirking on your comment me >> > old China. >> >> > On Jan 27, 11:13 pm, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > Ahhh but what if majority opinion was to sway towards your way Archy? >> >> > > On Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:56:22 UTC, archytas wrote: >> >> > > > Much majority opinion, when tested, contains almost no evaluation, >> > > > nothing on alternative views (other than suspicion) and no critique or >> > > > originality. Many of the people involved are remarkably decent, >> > > > hospitable and so on. The majority view on the science I've done is >> > > > non-existent - people don't have the requisite languages. >> > > > Anthropology throws up majority views across cultures that are frankly >> > > > barking (as in our own histories and probably now). We might walk one >> > > > of Andrew's thought parks and look back from the near future and >> > > > realise neo-classical economics really was a barking mad control fraud >> > > > that held us back from world peace - or that it saved us from a world >> > > > once again dominated by religion. >> >> > > > On Jan 27, 5:54 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > If you asked someone in the herd, if they considered themselves to be >> > > > > part of the herd, or if their view was their opinion, I suspect that >> > > > > you would hear a view entirely different than the opinion you just >> > > > > voiced, Andrew. An opinion filled with judgments presented as fact >> > > > > (or a an attempt of such,) twisted words and thinly veiled >> > > > > accusations >> > > > > are always weak argument. Words like arrogant and vain are value >> > > > > judgments. Herd mentality is a documented sociological phenomenon. >> > > > > Most operating under herd mentality do not understand that the basis >> > > > > of their thinking or opinion is fear. I would speculate that most >> > > > > political rhetoric is aimed at forming herd mentality with fear. At >> > > > > least, all the political ads in every city I have ever lived in the >> > > > > US. >> >> > > > > On Jan 27, 12:23 pm, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > Heard mentality or herd mentality is not an opinion. It is just >> > > > blindly >> > > > > > following the loudest voice heard either out of fear or out of not >> > > > having >> > > > > > an opinion but taking it from the herd you chose to follow in >> > > > > > order to >> > > > > > conform. The majority opinion in not necessarily the loudest >> > > > > > opinion >> > > > you >> > > > > > hear. The loudest opinion usually comes from an arrogant, vain and >> > > > > > disrespectful person who is power hungry and has enough money for a >> > > > > > brainwashing campaign. Like a dictator who disregards majority >> > > > opinions as >> > > > > > mindless. >> >> > > > > > On Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:12:08 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >> >> > > > > > > Of course, I meant herd mentality. Now, off to work! >> >> > > > > > > On Jan 27, 10:00 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > > > before the judgments fly any further, a differentiation between >> > > > heard >> > > > > > > > mentality and majority thinking might be in order. It is >> > > > > > > > possible >> > > > > > > > there there is truth in what Andrew and Allan are saying, but >> > > > gross >> > > > > > > > generalization, paradoxically, leads to a narrow view, one >> > > > > > > > that is >> > > > > > > > unable to consider another. Heard mentality can indeed, be >> > > > dangerous, >> > > > > > > > and a great manipulator can take advantage. History bears this >> > > > out on >> > > > > > > > many occasions. >> >> > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:35 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > what ever andrew >> >> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 7:55 AM, andrew vecsey < >> > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > > Except when the majority opinion happens to agree with your >> > > > own >> > > > > > > opinion. In >> > > > > > > > > > my own personal opinion, anyone who thinks that the >> > > > > > > > > > majority >> > > > opinion >> > > > > > > is >> > > > > > > > > > mindless shows clear signs of arrogance, vanity and >> > > > disrespect. All >> > > > > > > opinions >> > > > > > > > > > should be respected. Is that not the basis of democracy? >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:44:57 PM UTC+1, Allan >> > > > > > > > > > Heretic >> > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > >> the majority opinion is the easiest one to manipulate as >> > > > > > > > > >> it >> > > > has no >> > > > > > > > > >> idea what it is. because of that it is the easiest to >> > > > control >> > > > > > > being >> > > > > > > > > >> both mindless, disorientated with no where to go and no >> > > > > > > > > >> idea >> > > > of >> > > > > > > what >> > > > > > > > > >> it believes as well as willing to believe the comforting >> > > > > > > > > >> lie >> > > > > > > rather >> > > > > > > > > >> tan the simple truth. >> >> > > > > > > > > >> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM, andrew vecsey < >> > > > [email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> wrote: >> > > > > > > > > >> > The majority opinion is the most FAIR, most JUST, most >> > > > > > > comprehensive.... >> > > > > > > > > >> > opinion. You can not call it the best, the most >> > > > > > > > > >> > correct, or >> > > > the >> > > > > > > most >> > > > > > > > > >> > moral >> > > > > > > > > >> > etc...because those evaluations are personal. Majority >> > > > opinion is >> > > > > > > not >> > > > > > > > > >> > personal. >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > On Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:15:25 PM UTC+1, archytas >> > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> .......I think we know >> > > > > > > > > >> >> what the right things to do are but are scared of our >> > > > impotence >> > > > > > > - >> > > > > > > > > >> >> understanding more of why might help. >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> On Jan 26, 10:14 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > In present tense it means acknowledging the massive >> > > > amount of >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > illnesses, >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > deaths and general deformation of humanness because >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > of a >> > > > > > > protestant >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > work >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > ethics that serves very much the one and less the >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > many. >> > > > I hope >> > > > > > > you >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > can >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > decipher my shorthand by now. >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > 2013/1/26 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Yes and no one is more or less past tense the >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > other is >> > > > on >> > > > > > > going, >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > one killing was based off racial superiority,, the >> > > > other >> > > > > > > killing >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > is >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > based off religious superiority, >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Whats the difference.. ?? >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM, gabbydott < >> > > > > > > [email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > The other serving as a better example of >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > wickedness >> > > > is a >> > > > > > > classic, >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > Allan. >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > 2013/1/26 Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> A better example Riggs and sadly enough is >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> Islam >> > > > in >> > > > > > > today's >> >> ... >> >> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. 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