Agreed. On Feb 10, 11:29 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I have noticed, over the years, that much 'purpose' is something else > - seemingly fabricated - as in mission statements as bad as higher > education institutions 'being about' providing high quality > educational experiences - something one could hardly think of as > differentiating one from another. In practice we seem to be limited > to making the same old mistakes with statements of purpose connected > with fantasy. We might do better to think more in terms of > structuring opportunities to nurture each other. > > On 10 Feb, 15:30, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think purpose is relevant to us, until it is not, like cause and > > effect is important until, it is not. > > > On Feb 9, 10:42 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That seems about right ID10. The world is perspectival - all sorts of > > > stuff is justified from this perspective and that - many societies > > > have lived with slavery justified and so on. All of us are brought up > > > to believe one parochial set of beliefs or another. There seems to > > > have been a time before human perspective. I think science has more > > > or less told us our purpose is to develop technology to leave the > > > planet - but this is purpose limited by assumptions it's better to > > > survive than not. It leaves open wider questions of purpose that we > > > might gather along the way or give up on. I'm not keen on purpose > > > gained from religious faith or faith in one's country - we all turn > > > out to have lots to be ashamed of in these respects. I'm fairly sure > > > no that human purpose is now largely irrelevant and our future lies in > > > machine life. > > > . > > > > On Feb 9, 11:31 am, "[email protected]" > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Does the concept of purpose apply to species lower than humans or only > > > > to humans? If it does apply then at what level does it stop, sheep, > > > > fish, plans? And in case it stops at some level or ronly applies to > > > > humans is this definition based on the species having a spirit or a > > > > soul as some body may suggest, or is it based on having a certain level > > > > of consciousness? If it's based on the concept of a spirit or a soul > > > > then it's a matter of metaphysics and faith. If it's based on > > > > consciousness and we are talking in terms of the physical universe in > > > > which we live, then by definition purpose would be an invention of the > > > > human mind and it would be a matter of definition and how we view the > > > > world and view ourselves in it but it would be anything but a universal > > > > metaphysical thing on which we all could agree especially that it would > > > > look entirely different in the eyes of a more advanced species than our > > > > selves.
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