So far back that one of my undergrad mentors was a key proponent of epigenetics. Cheating in science is a bigger problem than admitted - and frankly encouraged in practical examinations (work out theoretical yields and subtract 1.5% for 'plausibility'). I don't think we need science for religion - just to be able to look in the hat as Molly says. All of us, I guess, are so far away from crusade/jihad religionists killing each other as to have entirely different ways of argument. The most neglected science is probably anthropology, especially as we might look into the hats of our own societies' primitive or Undead 'traditions'.
On Friday, 10 October 2014 11:49:26 UTC+1, Molly wrote: > > I guess looking in the hat ourselves is the crux. Especially when science > routinely skews the experiment to meet an agenda. I keep waiting for the > paradigm busting science to hit the mainstream and am beginning to wonder > if it ever will, or be lost like the work of Tesla or Keely. Talking > mostly about graphene and Epigenetics. Look at that, both around for > decades and not yet in the dictionary. > > On Friday, October 10, 2014 4:13:15 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >> >> Interesting book Molly. Going back to 1923 one can find A N Whitehead's >> 'Science and the Modern World' and the process philosophy of misplaced >> concreteness and the unwarranted bifurcation of reality. These are old >> arguments, though non-the-worse for that. Science, of course, is unlikely >> to accept argument based on 'a golden salamander told me' - especially when >> we can't look in the hat ourselves. >> >> On Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:49:07 UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>> >>> I found a free book online that tackles some of the stuff of Pat's book, >>> the biggest stuff, the merging of physics and mysticism. While Pat felt no >>> need to reference popular publications and had more of an affinity to the >>> bible and Koran, I can appreciate how many of the points made in his book >>> are made here also. Thanks Pat, wherever you are. >>> >>> >>> http://cloud2.snappages.com/ed35bc002396c05b8c40ef89a4002f59cb2c27f0/Science-of-the-Sages-20141011-Free-eBook-Edition.pdf >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 8:27:27 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> I keep Hop on Pop; Cat in the Hat; & Green Eggs and Ham on my phone, >>>> great for when read too. Ah the hidden escape hatches. >>>> So I'm a child in heart.. >>>> >>>> Allan >>>> Living Soul >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 1:15 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>> >>>> Like saying yes, when the answer is no. But by the time anyone else >>>> finds out the answer is no, no action can correct. yes to everyone and >>>> everything. Goodbye to the innocence of Green Eggs and Ham. Science rules >>>> the day. We can say what we want, it is meaningless (or is it?). By the >>>> time you know what you are looking at, if you ever do, your innocence will >>>> be gone with the moment. All you can do is move on to the next Dr. Seuss >>>> book, if you still have the heart. >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 5:37:15 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> (",) >>>>> >>>>> Allan >>>>> Living Soul >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:36 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D8HGxv7UeOM/VCsUMlFID5I/AAAAAAAAABk/JMVQKQl73bw/s1600/Sam%2BI%2Bam.jpg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:30:00 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe, in some ways, we must suffer madness to retain sanity? From >>>>>> nearly 100 years ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> Desiderata >>>>>> Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there >>>>>> may be in silence. >>>>>> As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all >>>>>> persons. >>>>>> Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the >>>>>> dull and ignorant; they too have their story. >>>>>> Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. >>>>>> If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; >>>>>> for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. >>>>>> Keep interested in your career, however humble; it is a real >>>>>> possession in the changing fortunes of time. >>>>>> Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of >>>>>> trickery. >>>>>> But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons >>>>>> strive for high ideals; >>>>>> and everywhere life is full of heroism. >>>>>> >>>>>> Be yourself. >>>>>> Especially, do not feign affection. >>>>>> Neither be critical about love; for in the face of all aridity and >>>>>> disenchantment it is as perennial as the grass. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the >>>>>> things of youth. >>>>>> Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do >>>>>> not distress yourself with imaginings. >>>>>> Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome >>>>>> discipline, be gentle with yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; >>>>>> you have a right to be here. >>>>>> And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is >>>>>> unfolding as it should. >>>>>> >>>>>> Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, >>>>>> and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of >>>>>> life keep peace with your soul. >>>>>> With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a >>>>>> beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. >>>>>> >>>>>> © Max Ehrmann 1927 >>>>>> On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:03:14 UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure what a real valid person isn't Allan. I miss the >>>>>>> entertainment. The science was Kaliber Yawn, but then I'm a 'cold >>>>>>> dark' >>>>>>> man on physics and anti-traditionalist on god. I hope you and I would >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> sit about pondering naked gymnastics for the young and virtue ethics >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> participants in The Republic, whilst telling slaves to fetch another >>>>>>> glass >>>>>>> of wine or herbal tea or a 'flute girl'. We managed to ban Chazwin, a >>>>>>> fine >>>>>>> chap suffering from cancer at the time. Manners and politesse can be >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> nasty. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:14:21 UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As friend outside ME I enjoyed his private messages and liked him. >>>>>>>> He was a real valid person. Miss his input. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>> A Living Soul >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 7:51 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just about my view Gabby, to be honest. What would we be saying if >>>>>>>> we had known Paul Gauguin - see >>>>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/8011066/Is-it-wrong-to-admire-Paul-Gauguins-art.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - not that I connect any such lifehistory with Pat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, 29 September 2014 22:15:16 UTC+1, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree with your analysis, RP. I share Pat's love for patterns >>>>>>>>> and have experienced some of the side effects also. There are times >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> situations when this shown behaviour is normal. So these behavioural >>>>>>>>> patterns don't really scare me. What got me really upset was the role >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> "publisher", a windy bubble creationist. The website was so crap, I >>>>>>>>> understood I would not send one penny to this dubious enterprise and >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> they would not do anything to promote the book. I hope Pat has got >>>>>>>>> more in >>>>>>>>> sync with real people again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am Montag, 29. September 2014 02:47:55 UTC+2 schrieb RP Singh: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have not diagnosed someone's character , rather I have >>>>>>>>>> presented my estimate about his behaviour pattern. It is not a >>>>>>>>>> judgement >>>>>>>>>> but an analysis of abnormal behaviour. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:46 AM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We are here to discuss ideas, RP, not the members characters. >>>>>>>>>>> Attack on a members character, even if your opinion is in the form >>>>>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>>>>>> diagnosis, is clearly outlawed in the guidelines. Pat shared many >>>>>>>>>>> interesting ideas in this group, and was appreciated by many of us. >>>>>>>>>>> Where >>>>>>>>>>> I come from, we call an attack on someones character who is not >>>>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>>> backstabbing, and is, by any measure, as Mando points out, a breach >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> trust. Whether currently participating or not, we are not here to >>>>>>>>>>> comment >>>>>>>>>>> on people's character. If you have any comments on string theory, >>>>>>>>>>> or any >>>>>>>>>>> other facet of Pat's book, I suggest you move on to discussing his >>>>>>>>>>> ideas >>>>>>>>>>> and away from diagnosing his or anyone else's character. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:22:49 PM UTC-4, RP Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have diagnosed an abnormal behaviour and do not attempt to >>>>>>>>>>>> make personality assessments of normal people. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Richard Blay < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So RP, Mr. psychologist, what are you going to write about >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gabby if she goes out of communication based on her postings? ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2014 10:45 PM, "Molly" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I reject your opinion and find it uninformed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:56:02 PM UTC-4, RP Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat was a classical case of paranoid schizophrenia as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> revealed through his posts. In mental disorders , unlike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> physiological >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems it is not absolutely necessary that you personally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affected person. His disease can be definitely gleaned from his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are clear enough , which in Pats case were quite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transparent. As for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sub-types of schizophrenia , paranoid schizophrenia is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite unique >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it involves paranoid thinking as well. No disrespect is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intended >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> towards Pat , a disease is a disease whether it is physical or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mental. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides , for years I knew about Pat's ailment but never voiced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consideration for his feelings , but now that for years he has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone out of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication I thought there was no harm in sharing my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts with you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was a very bright guy who offered is knowledge and ideas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honestly, and, as you say Allan, without judgement and always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect. I will spare you my opinion of a psychologist who, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowing someone personally and having never seen them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionally, would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly declare a diagnosis of a person based on Internet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group posts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 3:37:17 PM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a copy also, lol. Took me a while to get it even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though I paid for it as soon as I found out it was being >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> published. I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read it . His book has given me a lot to think about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of all Pat was friend, and a legitimate contributing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> member of this group. He was here when I arrived accepting me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without judgment. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which leaves you RP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 9:09 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did buy a copy. Whatever my opinion of the book, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would never deem it a failure. IMHO, that is up to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> author, taking into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account his own goals and objectives for the book and its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publication. If #books sold is anyone's criterion, they will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference the facts. I know that Pat worked for several years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> book. Publicly declaring it a failure seems, to me, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extraordinarily harsh, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially if unsubstantiated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 1:57:52 PM UTC-4, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you buy a copy? I did. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Minds Eye <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 7:10 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat had very high expectations. He believed that his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'BOOK' would sell in millions and bring about a paradigm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shift. The failure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of his book might have been heartbreaking for him and he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might just not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the mood to communicate with us. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM, archytas < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly no idea. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 28 September 2014 02:33:28 UTC+1, Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heretic wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think of him too, tried contacting his publisher no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living Soul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Molly <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:05 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: Pat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find him anywhere. 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